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Or stay true to your professional standards? Maliciousness usually is detectable.

GenerocUsername 4y ago
Leaving after 2 months would actually damage low paying company more than passing the role entirely. And you have pocketed an extra few thousand in the interim
than3 4y ago
Yes, but I can't justify taking a position like that. It was US based, and was not a one-off tactic unfortunately. As others have said it was effectively minimum wage, and the job search started last Mar 2022 (biotech let a lot of people go around that time). I would rather flip burgers than provide my hard-earned and considerable expertise for glass beads. Its such a waste that exploitation is the norm, and if you don't go for it you can't use your expertise. I'm damn good at what I do, and that kind of interference in labor relations should be illegal. Fortunately for me my savvy investments cover my fixed expenses so I'm not desperate to put food on the table. This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination.
- ramesh31 4y ago
  > This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination. The paper ceiling is real, and I'm starting to feel it as well. Past a certain point, it really doesn't matter how "good" you are at what you do, all that matters is pedigree. Constantly having to prove yourself at all times is exhausting. And you can forget about ever even being considered by any "hard tech" companies. It's a shame. Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. Now it's become a scarlet letter.
  - than3 4y ago
    > Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. I can't agree more, teaching yourself these things you come to intuitive insights and understandings that aren't taught, and most likely can't be taught in any good way. Experience that shows you can perform and do the role should trump all else.
Ancalagon 4y ago
I did say maliciously comply. Do what they want just make it difficult. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And in this case they’re playing a very stupid game.

Leaving after 2 months would actually damage low paying company more than passing the role entirely. And you have pocketed an extra few thousand in the interim

than3 4y ago

Yes, but I can't justify taking a position like that. It was US based, and was not a one-off tactic unfortunately. As others have said it was effectively minimum wage, and the job search started last Mar 2022 (biotech let a lot of people go around that time). I would rather flip burgers than provide my hard-earned and considerable expertise for glass beads. Its such a waste that exploitation is the norm, and if you don't go for it you can't use your expertise. I'm damn good at what I do, and that kind of interference in labor relations should be illegal. Fortunately for me my savvy investments cover my fixed expenses so I'm not desperate to put food on the table. This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination.

ramesh31 4y ago
> This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination. The paper ceiling is real, and I'm starting to feel it as well. Past a certain point, it really doesn't matter how "good" you are at what you do, all that matters is pedigree. Constantly having to prove yourself at all times is exhausting. And you can forget about ever even being considered by any "hard tech" companies. It's a shame. Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. Now it's become a scarlet letter.
- than3 4y ago
  > Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. I can't agree more, teaching yourself these things you come to intuitive insights and understandings that aren't taught, and most likely can't be taught in any good way. Experience that shows you can perform and do the role should trump all else.

Ancalagon 4y ago

I did say maliciously comply. Do what they want just make it difficult. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And in this case they’re playing a very stupid game.