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According to a tweet it's around 5600 guys with LOIC. "The Largest Attack Ever by Anonymous - 5,635 People Confirmed Using #LOIC to Bring Down Sites! #Anonymou

According to a tweet it's around 5600 guys with LOIC. "The Largest Attack Ever by Anonymous - 5,635 People Confirmed Using #LOIC to Bring Down Sites! #Anonymous" https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews/status/160135858895335424 https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews/status/16013585889533542...

redthrowaway 15y ago
I'm highly doubtful that that's all that's happening. I simply can't see a 5600-strong botnet (voluntary or not) holding down 4 independent domains simultaneously. On a separate note, I would have thought they had learned their lesson re: LOIC after OP:Payback. I guess we'll be seeing another string of arrests in the coming months.
- codezero 15y ago
  They might manage to fill the connection limit for apache on each system (I think this is default to 256?).
  - baby 15y ago
    This! Apache is the first casualty when attacked by DOS. Default is way lower than 256 I think... You can change that parameter but it kills the optimization.
  - oinksoft 15y ago
    It's not very likely that those sites are using Apache on the front lines.
    - bmelton 15y ago
      They are.
      - cpeterso 15y ago
        mpaa.org is using nginx/1.0.5, but the other sites do indeed seem to be Apache servers.
- Zirro 15y ago
  Can't LOIC be operated through a VPN? (Assuming the VPN-operators allow it)
  - redthrowaway 15y ago
    If you routed all your traffic through the VPN, LOIC would follow. That said, I know of no vpn that would allow it. Basically, LOIC is a ticket to jail. The fact that it was used for so long without repercussions is that the Feds didn't care enough to do anything. That all changed with OP:Payback.
    - goblin89 15y ago
      But how could an open source network stress testing utility become a ticket to jail?
      - sp332 15y ago
        Intentionally disabling someone else's computer system (even just their website) is a crime. And LOIC has no anonymity measures, so your IP shows up on every single packet that arrives at the target computer. If you participate in an attack, it will be very easy to find and prosecute you.
        Peaker 15y ago
        Richard Stallman used an analogy of voluntary DDoS with street protests. Street protests make whole streets inaccessible, and may disable access to stores, businesses or what not.
        TheCapn 15y ago
        The way I look at it is like having 100 of your friends all go to McDonalds and line up. One at a time you order a glass of water, and then go to the back of the line. Honest customers will enter and get in line. If they wait/keep trying for long enough they'll be able to fulfill a request but most will get fed up and quit trying.

redthrowaway 15y ago

I'm highly doubtful that that's all that's happening. I simply can't see a 5600-strong botnet (voluntary or not) holding down 4 independent domains simultaneously. On a separate note, I would have thought they had learned their lesson re: LOIC after OP:Payback. I guess we'll be seeing another string of arrests in the coming months.

codezero 15y ago
They might manage to fill the connection limit for apache on each system (I think this is default to 256?).
- baby 15y ago
  This! Apache is the first casualty when attacked by DOS. Default is way lower than 256 I think... You can change that parameter but it kills the optimization.
- oinksoft 15y ago
  It's not very likely that those sites are using Apache on the front lines.
  - bmelton 15y ago
    They are.
    - cpeterso 15y ago
      mpaa.org is using nginx/1.0.5, but the other sites do indeed seem to be Apache servers.
Zirro 15y ago
Can't LOIC be operated through a VPN? (Assuming the VPN-operators allow it)
- redthrowaway 15y ago
  If you routed all your traffic through the VPN, LOIC would follow. That said, I know of no vpn that would allow it. Basically, LOIC is a ticket to jail. The fact that it was used for so long without repercussions is that the Feds didn't care enough to do anything. That all changed with OP:Payback.
  - goblin89 15y ago
    But how could an open source network stress testing utility become a ticket to jail?
    - sp332 15y ago
      Intentionally disabling someone else's computer system (even just their website) is a crime. And LOIC has no anonymity measures, so your IP shows up on every single packet that arrives at the target computer. If you participate in an attack, it will be very easy to find and prosecute you.
      - Peaker 15y ago
        Richard Stallman used an analogy of voluntary DDoS with street protests. Street protests make whole streets inaccessible, and may disable access to stores, businesses or what not.
        TheCapn 15y ago
        The way I look at it is like having 100 of your friends all go to McDonalds and line up. One at a time you order a glass of water, and then go to the back of the line. Honest customers will enter and get in line. If they wait/keep trying for long enough they'll be able to fulfill a request but most will get fed up and quit trying.