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"The H-1B is a visa in the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H) that allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ forei

"The H-1B is a visa in the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 101(a)(15)(H) that allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations." From the Wikipedia page for H-1B visa. Note: "temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations". Also from the page: "The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) is responsible for ensuring that foreign workers do not displace or adversely affect wages or working conditions of U.S. workers." Note: "do not displace or adversely affect wages..." US companies have laid off tens of thousands of workers, many I'm sure are H1-B but also many US citizens as well. Priority should be for US citizens and permanent residents, by definition of the H-1B visa itself. Edit: Not sure why I'm being downvoted, I citied sources. Please point out what is incorrect in my statements if you're going to downvote. Thanks!

908B64B197 4y ago
These layoffs are actually great for clearing some of pool of H1B recipient who, white frankly, shouldn't have been granted visas in the first place. Keep in mind that If I want to hire: A smart graduate from EPFL, Polytechnique or ETH Zurich who interned at CERN and has contributed to the Linux kernel for a software engineering job at a unicorn startup or A grad from a second tier "technical college" in India with a visa refusal rate of ~90% for a job doing manual UI testing and QA for a body shop [0]. my only path forward is H1! They'll both be listed as "computer related occupations" and apply for the same visa in the same quota. Does that make any sense to anyone? Of course, my odds of getting a lottery spot for the former are dramatically lower, since we all know body shops and consulting firms won't hesitate to file 4-5 applications per seat they plan to fill out (so one can hopefully get a spot in the lottery and not get any RFE). [0] https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/silicon-valleys-body-shop-secret/78781/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/silicon-valleys-body-s...
spiderxxxx 4y ago
In theory, the H-1B is great, it doesn't impact wages or jobs - nobody is denied a job and wages don't decrease. The reality is that companies hire a "junior developer" but expect senior developer work out of that H-1B, or they hire "software analyst" when they really mean "full stack programmer". Also they put out job ads in smaller circulations, or have weirdly specific requirements that put off Americans from applying, so they can say they advertised, got zero responses, or zero qualified candidates, and thus need the H-1B.
- throwaway5959 4y ago
  Did you read what I said? I'm saying that the H1-B isn't a permanent worker program and has been effectively being used as one, when in fact it is supposed to be a temporary worker program.

908B64B197 4y ago

These layoffs are actually great for clearing some of pool of H1B recipient who, white frankly, shouldn't have been granted visas in the first place. Keep in mind that If I want to hire: A smart graduate from EPFL, Polytechnique or ETH Zurich who interned at CERN and has contributed to the Linux kernel for a software engineering job at a unicorn startup or A grad from a second tier "technical college" in India with a visa refusal rate of ~90% for a job doing manual UI testing and QA for a body shop [0]. my only path forward is H1! They'll both be listed as "computer related occupations" and apply for the same visa in the same quota. Does that make any sense to anyone? Of course, my odds of getting a lottery spot for the former are dramatically lower, since we all know body shops and consulting firms won't hesitate to file 4-5 applications per seat they plan to fill out (so one can hopefully get a spot in the lottery and not get any RFE). [0] https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/silicon-valleys-body-shop-secret/78781/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/silicon-valleys-body-s...

spiderxxxx 4y ago

In theory, the H-1B is great, it doesn't impact wages or jobs - nobody is denied a job and wages don't decrease. The reality is that companies hire a "junior developer" but expect senior developer work out of that H-1B, or they hire "software analyst" when they really mean "full stack programmer". Also they put out job ads in smaller circulations, or have weirdly specific requirements that put off Americans from applying, so they can say they advertised, got zero responses, or zero qualified candidates, and thus need the H-1B.

throwaway5959 4y ago
Did you read what I said? I'm saying that the H1-B isn't a permanent worker program and has been effectively being used as one, when in fact it is supposed to be a temporary worker program.