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Be prepared for a long haul, some of us without degrees are still looking a year later, despite having a decade of experience doing the role. About the only of
by than3 4y ago
Be prepared for a long haul, some of us without degrees are still looking a year later, despite having a decade of experience doing the role.
About the only offers I've gotten are a systems architect role starting at 50k, where they then come back on the second interview and say its 30k since I'm not qualified since I don't have a degree. Take it or leave it.
I have a decade of direct experience doing this work and have set up hundreds of clients with cloud or hybrid depending on regulatory requirements. 50k was low for that work, but now 30?
Bunch of scumbags out there.
- Ancalagon 4y agoToo low anyways but Take it and keep looking Or take it and maliciously comply with whatever they want in the most brutal way possible
- blisterpeanuts 4y agoOr stay true to your professional standards? Maliciousness usually is detectable.
- GenerocUsername 4y agoLeaving after 2 months would actually damage low paying company more than passing the role entirely. And you have pocketed an extra few thousand in the interim
- than3 4y agoYes, but I can't justify taking a position like that. It was US based, and was not a one-off tactic unfortunately. As others have said it was effectively minimum wage, and the job search started last Mar 2022 (biotech let a lot of people go around that time). I would rather flip burgers than provide my hard-earned and considerable expertise for glass beads. Its such a waste that exploitation is the norm, and if you don't go for it you can't use your expertise. I'm damn good at what I do, and that kind of interference in labor relations should be illegal. Fortunately for me my savvy investments cover my fixed expenses so I'm not desperate to put food on the table. This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination.
- ramesh31 4y ago> This kind of thing is fairly common for those without a degree, and in my opinion it is truly a despicable type of employment discrimination. The paper ceiling is real, and I'm starting to feel it as well. Past a certain point, it really doesn't matter how "good" you are at what you do, all that matters is pedigree. Constantly having to prove yourself at all times is exhausting. And you can forget about ever even being considered by any "hard tech" companies. It's a shame. Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. Now it's become a scarlet letter.
- than3 4y ago> Making it in this industry as a self taught dev used to be a source of pride. I can't agree more, teaching yourself these things you come to intuitive insights and understandings that aren't taught, and most likely can't be taught in any good way. Experience that shows you can perform and do the role should trump all else.
- Ancalagon 4y agoI did say maliciously comply. Do what they want just make it difficult. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And in this case they’re playing a very stupid game.
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- kortilla 4y agoWhat country? 30k is minimum wage now in California…
- red-iron-pine 4y ago80k is poverty line in SF
- zitterbewegung 4y ago$50k is four times as low for that role if you have a decade of experience.
- mountainriver 4y agoIt’s funny how degrees become such an issue in this environment, normally experience is fine as a substitute, but things change quick