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How do you know this given that we don't have accurate aggregate data on this?

JoeyBananas 4y ago
I'm going off of lists such as this one, which I believe are 100% representative of reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor... It's not like when somebody gets shot by cops, there's immediately a huge cover-up operation. Just because departments don't spoonfeed people this information doesn't mean it's completely unknowable.
- ttfkam 4y ago
  FYI: The OP link is cited as a reference to the Wikipedia article you linked. Ask yourself how often you've seen a video where police shoot someone, cuff them, remove all weapons from reach, and then stand by without immediately rendering emergency aid. The threat is over. They were shot. They were bleeding out. As a nation I think we should probably be a lot less comfortable with the notion that police can selectively choose who is worthy of the death penalty on the spot. Reminder: the police report for George Floyd stated that he died of complications of cocaine use, not a knee on his airway for almost ten minutes AFTER he had been cuffed and put in the back of the police cruiser. Had there been no video, would there have even been an indictment let alone a trial or murder conviction? How many times are the cameras not recording?
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  - JoeyBananas 4y ago
    Would it be a bad idea to train cops more first aid skills? Hell no, I would absolutely support that. But I am of the opinion that the George Floyd video shows that Chauvin did nothing wrong, and I think it's disgraceful how bystanders were being douchebags by harrassing the cops. I was a Minneapolis resident at the time and I am dismayed by the way that case played out legally and how influential people in the community encouraged this behavior. I think it was a blatant kangaroo court. The abysmal state of attitudes towards police is a much more important issue. People in the ghetto oppose the police even when crime is rampant and lives are being destroyed. It makes no sense. Teaching cops how to pack bullet wounds and stuff is easy. It would barely make any difference.
    - ttfkam 4y ago
      > But I am of the opinion that the George Floyd video shows that Chauvin did nothing wrong There is clearly nothing more to say.

I'm going off of lists such as this one, which I believe are 100% representative of reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor... It's not like when somebody gets shot by cops, there's immediately a huge cover-up operation. Just because departments don't spoonfeed people this information doesn't mean it's completely unknowable.

ttfkam 4y ago
FYI: The OP link is cited as a reference to the Wikipedia article you linked. Ask yourself how often you've seen a video where police shoot someone, cuff them, remove all weapons from reach, and then stand by without immediately rendering emergency aid. The threat is over. They were shot. They were bleeding out. As a nation I think we should probably be a lot less comfortable with the notion that police can selectively choose who is worthy of the death penalty on the spot. Reminder: the police report for George Floyd stated that he died of complications of cocaine use, not a knee on his airway for almost ten minutes AFTER he had been cuffed and put in the back of the police cruiser. Had there been no video, would there have even been an indictment let alone a trial or murder conviction? How many times are the cameras not recording?
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- JoeyBananas 4y ago
  Would it be a bad idea to train cops more first aid skills? Hell no, I would absolutely support that. But I am of the opinion that the George Floyd video shows that Chauvin did nothing wrong, and I think it's disgraceful how bystanders were being douchebags by harrassing the cops. I was a Minneapolis resident at the time and I am dismayed by the way that case played out legally and how influential people in the community encouraged this behavior. I think it was a blatant kangaroo court. The abysmal state of attitudes towards police is a much more important issue. People in the ghetto oppose the police even when crime is rampant and lives are being destroyed. It makes no sense. Teaching cops how to pack bullet wounds and stuff is easy. It would barely make any difference.
  - ttfkam 4y ago
    > But I am of the opinion that the George Floyd video shows that Chauvin did nothing wrong There is clearly nothing more to say.