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Well its the grass hopper and the ant isn't it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grassho

Well its the grass hopper and the ant isn't it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper If you've been the ant you'd have prepared for the winter. I guess in reality most of us fit somewhere in between the ant and the grasshopper. It'll teach us all a bit of prudence we'd do well to remember thereafter.

greenie_beans 4y ago
that's one interpretation!
toomuchtodo 4y ago
How do you plan your life and career around the idea that you can be let go at any time for and be unemployed for an unknown amount of time, with no assurances you’ll be employable in the future? For sure, one should not overextend themselves, but conversely you can do everything right (live below your means, invest vs frivolous spending, robust emergency fund) and still fail. The anxiety of those faced with this reality is understandable, and there is substantial data demonstrating the harm of such an environment (chronic stress) to the human.
- ofchnofc 4y ago
  Well, one step would be some self-honesty about living within means. Throw out some numbers, let's talk about the specifics that no one here really wants to engage in. Someone with this perspective, please, help me understand - Give me a base salary, a rent, and a monthly expense that doesn't let you save up 6months of runway after 2+ years of employment.
  - roarcher 4y ago
    You seem to have created this account 4 hours ago with the sole purpose of lecturing HNers about how their problems aren't real and the solution is for them to be more like you, a generally superior human being. I wonder, why would an ubermensch feel the need to spend their day doing this?
    - ofchnofc 4y ago
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  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    No one wants to live on that runway even if they have it. How is any of your condescending attitude conducive to discussion?
- usgroup 4y ago
  Lol. Juxtaposing a bit, I kind of imagine you as an immortal wondering how anyone could lead a mortal life what with all its precariousness.
- jjk166 4y ago
  > be unemployed for an unknown amount of time, with no assurances you’ll be employable in the future? I mean realistically we're not facing 3rd world famine here. Things are probably going to be less comfortable for the next few years, and some of the most overinflated salaries might not return for a long while, but there are still going to be plenty of reasonable opportunities out there. That might mean relocating to a place where real estate isn't so inflated, or working on something less sexy, maybe taking an unrelated job for a few years, but nothing worse than what the overwhelming majority of people already live comfortably doing. You don't need to put enough away to support yourself for the rest of your life, just enough to let you land on your feet.
- usgroup 4y ago
  I think you’ve set up something of a straw man there.

greenie_beans 4y ago

that's one interpretation!

toomuchtodo 4y ago

How do you plan your life and career around the idea that you can be let go at any time for and be unemployed for an unknown amount of time, with no assurances you’ll be employable in the future? For sure, one should not overextend themselves, but conversely you can do everything right (live below your means, invest vs frivolous spending, robust emergency fund) and still fail. The anxiety of those faced with this reality is understandable, and there is substantial data demonstrating the harm of such an environment (chronic stress) to the human.

ofchnofc 4y ago
Well, one step would be some self-honesty about living within means. Throw out some numbers, let's talk about the specifics that no one here really wants to engage in. Someone with this perspective, please, help me understand - Give me a base salary, a rent, and a monthly expense that doesn't let you save up 6months of runway after 2+ years of employment.
- roarcher 4y ago
  You seem to have created this account 4 hours ago with the sole purpose of lecturing HNers about how their problems aren't real and the solution is for them to be more like you, a generally superior human being. I wonder, why would an ubermensch feel the need to spend their day doing this?
  - ofchnofc 4y ago
    [flagged]
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  No one wants to live on that runway even if they have it. How is any of your condescending attitude conducive to discussion?
usgroup 4y ago
Lol. Juxtaposing a bit, I kind of imagine you as an immortal wondering how anyone could lead a mortal life what with all its precariousness.
jjk166 4y ago
> be unemployed for an unknown amount of time, with no assurances you’ll be employable in the future? I mean realistically we're not facing 3rd world famine here. Things are probably going to be less comfortable for the next few years, and some of the most overinflated salaries might not return for a long while, but there are still going to be plenty of reasonable opportunities out there. That might mean relocating to a place where real estate isn't so inflated, or working on something less sexy, maybe taking an unrelated job for a few years, but nothing worse than what the overwhelming majority of people already live comfortably doing. You don't need to put enough away to support yourself for the rest of your life, just enough to let you land on your feet.
usgroup 4y ago
I think you’ve set up something of a straw man there.