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Consider joining the military! - You can get naturalized. https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service https://www.uscis.gov/military

Consider joining the military! - You can get naturalized. https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-milita... - It's the U.S. Military, so pretty good record on the whole. Maybe if you look the other way on Vietnam, Abu Ghraib, Blackwater, misbehaved politicians and their silly e-mail servers, and the fact that it can kind of be ugly business. - Free college, if you have kids you can confer it to them. - It's a job, dollar-amount-wise pay won't be competitive, but it's non-zero, and yields non-cash benefits such as the VA loan, aforementioned GI bill, and a litany of other benefits from both state and federal government. https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/benefits_book/2020_Federal_Benefits_for_Veterans_Dependents_and_survivors.pdf https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/benefits_book/2020_Feder... - May be able to select your own job, and get a standard technical career education in that trade. - Sense of duty, discipline, world-class paralegal-type education/MBA-type organizational-business operations exposure, physical-health-type education and training. (MBAs aren't too popular around here, but the frustrating language they use to discuss things is pervasive and hence useful). In all likelihood, you'll skip away with a lot of soft-skills, a stronger body, a wallet, a retirement fund, and a diverse set of friends. As the Military is bound to law, every action must be assessed in terms of law, and all activities are governed by law. Well-meaning contributors over hundreds of years have written law, orders, doctrine, policy, manual, and regulation often in blood, you get to pick that all up. - Huge community of invested contributors, VFW/American Legion admission, common ground with many Americans as the DoD is the world's largest employer. - There's options to potentially serve locally such as Guard or Reserve, you might reach out to local recruiters from different branches to find out if that's an option. You can check out the service-sites for more details, or maybe walk in to a recruiter's station and see if they're like, there.

jacobriis 4y ago
You can't join the military as a non-immigrant alien except for very narrow circumstances [1] for people who have had valid visa status for two years and have specific language skills [2] or medical qualifications. Requires 4 years of active duty for language candidates. edit: Actually it looks like this program was suspended years ago and hasn't resumed. [1] https://www.stilt.com/blog/2021/06/mavni-program/#Who_Is_Eligible_for_the_MAVNI_Program https://www.stilt.com/blog/2021/06/mavni-program/#Who_Is_Eli... [2] https://dod.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf https://dod.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Bengali, Bulgarian, Burmese, Cambodian-Khmer, Cebuano, Chinese, Czech, Dhivehi (language of Maldives), French (limited to individuals possessing citizenship from an African country), Georgian, Haitian-Creole, Hausa, Hindi, Hungarian, Igbo, Indonesian, Kashmiri, Korean, Kurdish, Lao, Malay, Malayalam, Moro, Nepalese, Pahari, Persian [Dari & Farsi], Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Pushtu (aka Pashto), Russian, Serbo, Croatian, Sindhi, Sinhalese, Somali, Swahili, Tagalog, Tajik, Tamil, Thai, Turkish, Turkmen, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek ,Yoruba
- meltyness 4y ago
  I'll admit that I'm not brushed-up, so I brushed up. DoDI 1304.26[0] describes department-specific requirements, and points back to USC 10 for the legal requirements. USC10 S504(b) lays out the specific requirements, namely "... lawfully admitted for permanent residence[2] ..." and in-addition, as you point out, there exists program-exceptions performed or maintained by the SecDef. A report by the Deparment of Homeland Security suggests that some immigrant visas meet this criteria[3]. There's also a pretty long list of spouse-visas that constitute LPR[4]. So, it's still possible. A recruiter would know more, or at least know someone who knows more. Where there's a will, there's a way. Notice these are all primary sources, with a favor towards the authoritative information. If you're a stickler though, you could pull the PDFs direct from congress, but that's as much fun as reversing a box of punch cards. [0] DoDI 1304.26 Encl. 3, 2(b) https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/130426p.pdf https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/do... [1] USC10 504(b) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/504 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/504 [2] https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8-USC-2124716147-1201680062&term_occur=999&term_src= https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840... [3] https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/2022_0405_plcy_lawful_permanent_residents_fy2021v2.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/2022_0405_pl... [4] https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/lawful-permanent-residents/ImmigrantCOA https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/lawful-permanent-...
  - jacobriis 4y ago
    I'm not sure how posting a bunch of links that say you have to be a lawful permanent resident support your case that you don't have to be a lawful permanent resident. You think this guy just accidentally forgot he's a lawful permanent resident and got a H1B? No there isn't a way for an H1B to join the military. Try the French Foreign Legion. Also Ukraine and Russia are hiring.
    - meltyness 4y ago
      The links are simply a copy of a primary source for the correct legal stipulations, and are hence adjacent to a wholistic view. You also seem to have confidently misread the situation, because OP does not indicate his specific current visa, since his spouse's visa may be that of a lawful permanent resident.
renewiltord 4y ago
The military program is suspended. Someone I've heard of managed to get through that but it's not currently running.

jacobriis 4y ago

You can't join the military as a non-immigrant alien except for very narrow circumstances [1] for people who have had valid visa status for two years and have specific language skills [2] or medical qualifications. Requires 4 years of active duty for language candidates. edit: Actually it looks like this program was suspended years ago and hasn't resumed. [1] https://www.stilt.com/blog/2021/06/mavni-program/#Who_Is_Eligible_for_the_MAVNI_Program https://www.stilt.com/blog/2021/06/mavni-program/#Who_Is_Eli... [2] https://dod.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf https://dod.defense.gov/news/mavni-fact-sheet.pdf Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, Azerbaijani, Bengali, Bulgarian, Burmese, Cambodian-Khmer, Cebuano, Chinese, Czech, Dhivehi (language of Maldives), French (limited to individuals possessing citizenship from an African country), Georgian, Haitian-Creole, Hausa, Hindi, Hungarian, Igbo, Indonesian, Kashmiri, Korean, Kurdish, Lao, Malay, Malayalam, Moro, Nepalese, Pahari, Persian [Dari & Farsi], Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Pushtu (aka Pashto), Russian, Serbo, Croatian, Sindhi, Sinhalese, Somali, Swahili, Tagalog, Tajik, Tamil, Thai, Turkish, Turkmen, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek ,Yoruba

meltyness 4y ago
I'll admit that I'm not brushed-up, so I brushed up. DoDI 1304.26[0] describes department-specific requirements, and points back to USC 10 for the legal requirements. USC10 S504(b) lays out the specific requirements, namely "... lawfully admitted for permanent residence[2] ..." and in-addition, as you point out, there exists program-exceptions performed or maintained by the SecDef. A report by the Deparment of Homeland Security suggests that some immigrant visas meet this criteria[3]. There's also a pretty long list of spouse-visas that constitute LPR[4]. So, it's still possible. A recruiter would know more, or at least know someone who knows more. Where there's a will, there's a way. Notice these are all primary sources, with a favor towards the authoritative information. If you're a stickler though, you could pull the PDFs direct from congress, but that's as much fun as reversing a box of punch cards. [0] DoDI 1304.26 Encl. 3, 2(b) https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/130426p.pdf https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/do... [1] USC10 504(b) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/504 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/504 [2] https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=8-USC-2124716147-1201680062&term_occur=999&term_src= https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840... [3] https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/2022_0405_plcy_lawful_permanent_residents_fy2021v2.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/2022_0405_pl... [4] https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/lawful-permanent-residents/ImmigrantCOA https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/lawful-permanent-...
- jacobriis 4y ago
  I'm not sure how posting a bunch of links that say you have to be a lawful permanent resident support your case that you don't have to be a lawful permanent resident. You think this guy just accidentally forgot he's a lawful permanent resident and got a H1B? No there isn't a way for an H1B to join the military. Try the French Foreign Legion. Also Ukraine and Russia are hiring.
  - meltyness 4y ago
    The links are simply a copy of a primary source for the correct legal stipulations, and are hence adjacent to a wholistic view. You also seem to have confidently misread the situation, because OP does not indicate his specific current visa, since his spouse's visa may be that of a lawful permanent resident.

renewiltord 4y ago

The military program is suspended. Someone I've heard of managed to get through that but it's not currently running.