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This makes me think that non pushy spaces like UK pubs should be given advantageous tax treatment. Are there any “coffee pubs”? I personally enjoy an occasion

This makes me think that non pushy spaces like UK pubs should be given advantageous tax treatment. Are there any “coffee pubs”? I personally enjoy an occasional beer but I don’t know if I’d want to repeatedly invite folks to hang out for hours in a place that largely serves alcohol drinks in mixed male/female company. Seems like it could become a headache in the US. One other issue in the US is that any third space becomes a long term hangout of all the local homeless, which causes people not to want to go there. Several local Starbucks have this problem and I stopped going there. It pushed me to drive 15 minutes to find one I can hang out without being distracted by people with obvious mental illness who need treatment.

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Animats 4y ago
> One other issue in the US is that any third space becomes a long term hangout of all the local homeless, which causes people not to want to go there. Several local Starbucks have this problem and I stopped going there. Yes. Our local Starbucks, at the Redwood City CA train station, removed all their furniture and closed their bathrooms. Now it's a big empty room with a bleak counter, where people sometimes come in and buy something.
- legerdemain 4y ago
  Almost all Starbuckses are bad, but you have several other options with plenty of seating near the Redwood City Caltrain. Try La Tartine just around the corner, which has plentiful seating, decent prices, and closes pretty late.
  - legerdemain 4y ago
    Also, the Philz down the street and Coffeebar further down the street (although both have higher prices and worse hours than La Tartine).
- TurkishPoptart 4y ago
  Terrible. It's almost like if Starbucks could invest in the police, the benefits would be win-win.
telotortium 4y ago
> Are there any “coffee pubs”? Agora in Houston is a Greek-owned coffee shop that operates as a coffee shop day and night but also offers alcohol at night, and sometimes has belly dancers and such. It's pretty unique - I don't think I've ever found anywhere else like it (in the US anyway).

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Animats 4y ago

> One other issue in the US is that any third space becomes a long term hangout of all the local homeless, which causes people not to want to go there. Several local Starbucks have this problem and I stopped going there. Yes. Our local Starbucks, at the Redwood City CA train station, removed all their furniture and closed their bathrooms. Now it's a big empty room with a bleak counter, where people sometimes come in and buy something.

legerdemain 4y ago
Almost all Starbuckses are bad, but you have several other options with plenty of seating near the Redwood City Caltrain. Try La Tartine just around the corner, which has plentiful seating, decent prices, and closes pretty late.
- legerdemain 4y ago
  Also, the Philz down the street and Coffeebar further down the street (although both have higher prices and worse hours than La Tartine).
TurkishPoptart 4y ago
Terrible. It's almost like if Starbucks could invest in the police, the benefits would be win-win.

telotortium 4y ago

> Are there any “coffee pubs”? Agora in Houston is a Greek-owned coffee shop that operates as a coffee shop day and night but also offers alcohol at night, and sometimes has belly dancers and such. It's pretty unique - I don't think I've ever found anywhere else like it (in the US anyway).