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It’s programs like this that actually fill me with hope - that taxpayer money is used for something directly helpful to the people. I’d love to see similar pro

It’s programs like this that actually fill me with hope - that taxpayer money is used for something directly helpful to the people. I’d love to see similar progressive assistance enacted in more districts.

password8 4y ago
Completely short term. It's a band-aid at best.
- PreachSoup 4y ago
  It's just food, we have plenty of it. What's a long term and non band-aid solution to let children eat?
  - wccrawford 4y ago
    Basically anything that enables their parents to feed them again instead. Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. Help them prosper via various different means and they'll be happier and healthier than taking government handouts 1 day at a time.
    - vidarh 4y ago
      Feeding children is a proven way of increasing the educational attainment, and by extension in the long run enables more (future) parents to prosper.
    - mjmahone17 4y ago
      Handouts are great and make our community better! I like taking handouts, and I love when the community, through guaranteed services, provides help taking care of my family. I love the government handouts that pay for road maintenance right up to my home. And bus service so I don’t need to buy a car. I also love the public library near me, which is a handout that gives my community a rich place to go and participate in arts and reading groups without requiring me to spend a penny! Handouts can help people prosper, and specifically children have no say in whether their parents have the means or motivation to meet their needs. We should help children prosper regardless of their parents, which means schools should provide free meals, laundry service, childcare for students’ younger siblings, etc. What “different means” would help students prosper than ensuring their needs are met?
    - chriswarbo 4y ago
      > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. Interesting; what are the sample size and 95% confidence intervals on the study you're citing? > Help them prosper via various different means Erm... that's exactly what's happening? This is not the entirety of the UK's economic policy.
    - lm28469 4y ago
      And let children go to school without food ? Sometimes the short term solution is necessary
    - denton-scratch 4y ago
      > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. That's a big part of why this provision is to be universal. You can't feel bad about taking "handouts" if all your fellow pupils are also getting it.
    - pleistocene 4y ago
      > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. This hypothesis has been demonstrably untrue for a long time now. UN reports from 2019-2022 consistently found Finland and Denmark to be the two happiest countries on Earth [1] and their governments provide some of the strongest welfare programs of any country [2]. [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model#Nordic_welfare_model https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model#Nordic_welfare_...
- substation13 4y ago
  If it is made into a permanent policy then it is long term.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
Ideally, it will be subject to accountability, and the service will not be outsourced to some cheap company employing the lowest quality labor serving the lowest quality food. I have seen that, and I would like the government to specify that all schools need to have kitchens or a central kitchen staffed by people employed by the government.

password8 4y ago

Completely short term. It's a band-aid at best.

PreachSoup 4y ago
It's just food, we have plenty of it. What's a long term and non band-aid solution to let children eat?
- wccrawford 4y ago
  Basically anything that enables their parents to feed them again instead. Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. Help them prosper via various different means and they'll be happier and healthier than taking government handouts 1 day at a time.
  - vidarh 4y ago
    Feeding children is a proven way of increasing the educational attainment, and by extension in the long run enables more (future) parents to prosper.
  - mjmahone17 4y ago
    Handouts are great and make our community better! I like taking handouts, and I love when the community, through guaranteed services, provides help taking care of my family. I love the government handouts that pay for road maintenance right up to my home. And bus service so I don’t need to buy a car. I also love the public library near me, which is a handout that gives my community a rich place to go and participate in arts and reading groups without requiring me to spend a penny! Handouts can help people prosper, and specifically children have no say in whether their parents have the means or motivation to meet their needs. We should help children prosper regardless of their parents, which means schools should provide free meals, laundry service, childcare for students’ younger siblings, etc. What “different means” would help students prosper than ensuring their needs are met?
  - chriswarbo 4y ago
    > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. Interesting; what are the sample size and 95% confidence intervals on the study you're citing? > Help them prosper via various different means Erm... that's exactly what's happening? This is not the entirety of the UK's economic policy.
  - lm28469 4y ago
    And let children go to school without food ? Sometimes the short term solution is necessary
  - denton-scratch 4y ago
    > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. That's a big part of why this provision is to be universal. You can't feel bad about taking "handouts" if all your fellow pupils are also getting it.
  - pleistocene 4y ago
    > Nobody like taking handouts and they'd much rather take care of their own families instead. This hypothesis has been demonstrably untrue for a long time now. UN reports from 2019-2022 consistently found Finland and Denmark to be the two happiest countries on Earth [1] and their governments provide some of the strongest welfare programs of any country [2]. [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model#Nordic_welfare_model https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model#Nordic_welfare_...
substation13 4y ago
If it is made into a permanent policy then it is long term.

lotsofpulp 4y ago

Ideally, it will be subject to accountability, and the service will not be outsourced to some cheap company employing the lowest quality labor serving the lowest quality food. I have seen that, and I would like the government to specify that all schools need to have kitchens or a central kitchen staffed by people employed by the government.