> if they just stayed in school and just didn't have kids then their lives would be great Yes, that's literally what they need to do. If we want to change that

> if they just stayed in school and just didn't have kids then their lives would be great Yes, that's literally what they need to do. If we want to change that, then changing their culture to value education is the only way to do it. No culture which denigrates education is going to equip the majority of its adherents for the modern world. Edit: I feel you're saying the same thing. Said poor immigrants succeed because they value succeeding. That's culture.