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Many europeans would feel that precisely describes the roma. Hoo boy you wanna see a European get real ugly real fast, ask them about the Roma sometime. I'm n

by paulmd 4y ago

Many europeans would feel that precisely describes the roma. Hoo boy you wanna see a European get real ugly real fast, ask them about the Roma sometime. I'm not racist but with those people it's not really racism, it's just fact... type stuff will follow. but like, at the end of the day thinking that "multiple cultural groups" is the problem basically a coded/socially-acceptable way of saying that we can't have a social safety net because of black/hispanic people (or whatever disfavored minority/immigrant group is currently en-vogue). It always has been.

4gotunameagain 4y ago
You cannot dislike an antiquated society that contributes almost nothing to society and parasitises in multiple ways, without being a racist ? It has nothing to do with race. Roma people have continuously refused to integrate, which is perfectly fine if they don't want to, but then don't be a weight on the host society by receiving every form of financial support you can get your hands on, while being a centre for criminality, and demanding access to what a contributing member of society can access. I have experienced roma communities first hand. They shun their own who decide to get educated. Is that the kind of societies you'd like around your kids in the 21st century ? There must be a reason that people dislike certain societies.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  We should separate race from lifestyle: Roma, and nomads or travellers. The British government doesn't, but it does show the "White Gypsy/Traveller" ethnicity has 31.2% "Never worked or long-term unemployed", higher than any other group [1]. Particular types of petty crime obviously increased when travellers settled (temporarily) on some land near where I grew up. It happened every 18 months or so. However, this doesn't show up in arrest statistics, so I think it's that society is accustomed to the existing petty crime and notices the change. [1] https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/demographics/socioeconomic-status/latest#ethnic-groups-by-socio-economic-status https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-popula...

by paulmd 4y ago

4gotunameagain 4y ago

You cannot dislike an antiquated society that contributes almost nothing to society and parasitises in multiple ways, without being a racist ? It has nothing to do with race. Roma people have continuously refused to integrate, which is perfectly fine if they don't want to, but then don't be a weight on the host society by receiving every form of financial support you can get your hands on, while being a centre for criminality, and demanding access to what a contributing member of society can access. I have experienced roma communities first hand. They shun their own who decide to get educated. Is that the kind of societies you'd like around your kids in the 21st century ? There must be a reason that people dislike certain societies.

Symbiote 4y ago
We should separate race from lifestyle: Roma, and nomads or travellers. The British government doesn't, but it does show the "White Gypsy/Traveller" ethnicity has 31.2% "Never worked or long-term unemployed", higher than any other group [1]. Particular types of petty crime obviously increased when travellers settled (temporarily) on some land near where I grew up. It happened every 18 months or so. However, this doesn't show up in arrest statistics, so I think it's that society is accustomed to the existing petty crime and notices the change. [1] https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/demographics/socioeconomic-status/latest#ethnic-groups-by-socio-economic-status https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-popula...