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You could easily solve that by having social/redistributions measure on a municipality/state level... The Netherlands is also part of the EU, very little social

You could easily solve that by having social/redistributions measure on a municipality/state level... The Netherlands is also part of the EU, very little social welfare measures are effectuated through the EU, most of that happens on a state level.

dml2135 4y ago
If it's so easy to solve for, why hasn't it happened already?
- Zaiberia 4y ago
  Because the US is no longer a full democracy, and the government mainly represents corporations rather than its citizens?
  - themaninthedark 4y ago
    The Us has never been a democracy, it has always been a (democratic)republic.
    - Retric 4y ago
      It started as a democratic republic but it isn’t currently a democratic republic.
      - mcv 4y ago
        Democracy in the US has always been flawed. The situation has been steadily improving in some areas (voting rights) with set backs in other areas (gerrymandering, legalised bribery of politicians). There's a lot that needs to be done, but the US has always pointed in the direction of democracy.
        Retric 4y ago
        At creation US leaders were selected from a subsection of the population in all land governed by the nation. With Puerto Rico, DC, etc that’s no longer the case making the US an empire not a republic. Controlling who has the vote has long been an issue, but denying political power to a region is a different category of thing than denying it to poor people etc.
        mcv 4y ago
        Maybe, but then the US is a weird kind of reverse-empire, because it's exactly the capital where people don't get to vote, at least for the senate. An empire is usually where only people from the core region have any representation (if anyone does, because I don't think empires need to be democratic at all).
        Retric 4y ago
        People in the capital do vote, just in congress rather than the general population.
    - olddustytrail 4y ago
      Being a republic has nothing whatsoever to do with being a democracy. They are orthogonal concepts.
- erentz 4y ago
  One of the biggest issues that prevents this is that states cannot require residency requirements (e.g. must have lived in state for 2 years) as part of the criteria for access to such social safety nets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_v._Thompson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_v._Thompson
localplume 4y ago
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dml2135 4y ago

If it's so easy to solve for, why hasn't it happened already?

Zaiberia 4y ago
Because the US is no longer a full democracy, and the government mainly represents corporations rather than its citizens?
- themaninthedark 4y ago
  The Us has never been a democracy, it has always been a (democratic)republic.
  - Retric 4y ago
    It started as a democratic republic but it isn’t currently a democratic republic.
    - mcv 4y ago
      Democracy in the US has always been flawed. The situation has been steadily improving in some areas (voting rights) with set backs in other areas (gerrymandering, legalised bribery of politicians). There's a lot that needs to be done, but the US has always pointed in the direction of democracy.
      - Retric 4y ago
        At creation US leaders were selected from a subsection of the population in all land governed by the nation. With Puerto Rico, DC, etc that’s no longer the case making the US an empire not a republic. Controlling who has the vote has long been an issue, but denying political power to a region is a different category of thing than denying it to poor people etc.
        mcv 4y ago
        Maybe, but then the US is a weird kind of reverse-empire, because it's exactly the capital where people don't get to vote, at least for the senate. An empire is usually where only people from the core region have any representation (if anyone does, because I don't think empires need to be democratic at all).
        Retric 4y ago
        People in the capital do vote, just in congress rather than the general population.
  - olddustytrail 4y ago
    Being a republic has nothing whatsoever to do with being a democracy. They are orthogonal concepts.
erentz 4y ago
One of the biggest issues that prevents this is that states cannot require residency requirements (e.g. must have lived in state for 2 years) as part of the criteria for access to such social safety nets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_v._Thompson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapiro_v._Thompson

localplume 4y ago

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