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I can't properly formulate why but something about this seems like it'd be my most hated class ever.

elil17 4y ago
He teaches at a business school - probably loved by the people who take the classes but not something that would appeal to anyone else
ihatepython 4y ago
It does sound like a horrible class. I think the issue with AI is that the average person doesn't understand how it works, and the problem is when somebody in a position of power becomes infatuated with it. I don't fear AI, but I fear bad-AI, or misused-AI. Those who understand how it works know that its mostly Garbage In-Garbage Out
- lambdaba 4y ago
  Indeed but it's also gold-in gold-out, something like that... But on a more subtle note because conversational AI has this short feedback loop, much shorter than even regular search, I feel that it's something where people can level up quickly. I think there's going to be great value there.
jmount 4y ago
My guess is, it sounds like a lot of unpleasant empirical tinkering exercises.
samvher 4y ago
Interesting - if you do manage to formulate it I'd be curious to read that. I like how they're taking a proactive approach in trying out what role ChatGPT and the like can play in generation and exploration of knowledge. I like the breakdown of the different ways of interacting with the tool, and the callout of how collaborative editing seems like the best out of the approaches they've witnessed. I also feel somewhat comforted by the remarks about how students engage with the output of the tools critically and fact checking can actually be a valuable way to interact with the material. Personally I think I would enjoy this class - I like the openness to experimentation. I can imagine that _getting graded for it_ could be a frustrating experience though, I think with experimental classes that's a kind of thing for which there tends to be little standardization and it can be unpredictable how you'll be judged.
dandellion 4y ago
You could try chatgpt to help you formulate it properly. I'm not native so I've used it a few times to come up with a first draft. More often than not the result is pretty bad, but it's much easier to work with than a blank page. I remove 2/3 of what was generated and I write the rest myself, then ask the AI to point out spelling or grammatical mistakes. It's a bit tedious, but less so than having to translate or writing in a foreign language by myself.

He teaches at a business school - probably loved by the people who take the classes but not something that would appeal to anyone else

ihatepython 4y ago

It does sound like a horrible class. I think the issue with AI is that the average person doesn't understand how it works, and the problem is when somebody in a position of power becomes infatuated with it. I don't fear AI, but I fear bad-AI, or misused-AI. Those who understand how it works know that its mostly Garbage In-Garbage Out

lambdaba 4y ago
Indeed but it's also gold-in gold-out, something like that... But on a more subtle note because conversational AI has this short feedback loop, much shorter than even regular search, I feel that it's something where people can level up quickly. I think there's going to be great value there.

jmount 4y ago

My guess is, it sounds like a lot of unpleasant empirical tinkering exercises.

samvher 4y ago

Interesting - if you do manage to formulate it I'd be curious to read that. I like how they're taking a proactive approach in trying out what role ChatGPT and the like can play in generation and exploration of knowledge. I like the breakdown of the different ways of interacting with the tool, and the callout of how collaborative editing seems like the best out of the approaches they've witnessed. I also feel somewhat comforted by the remarks about how students engage with the output of the tools critically and fact checking can actually be a valuable way to interact with the material. Personally I think I would enjoy this class - I like the openness to experimentation. I can imagine that _getting graded for it_ could be a frustrating experience though, I think with experimental classes that's a kind of thing for which there tends to be little standardization and it can be unpredictable how you'll be judged.

dandellion 4y ago

You could try chatgpt to help you formulate it properly. I'm not native so I've used it a few times to come up with a first draft. More often than not the result is pretty bad, but it's much easier to work with than a blank page. I remove 2/3 of what was generated and I write the rest myself, then ask the AI to point out spelling or grammatical mistakes. It's a bit tedious, but less so than having to translate or writing in a foreign language by myself.