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> and doubly so if you don’t speak Dutch or are on a budget Like literally anywhere in the world, in the vast majority of country if you show up poor and not a

> and doubly so if you don’t speak Dutch or are on a budget Like literally anywhere in the world, in the vast majority of country if you show up poor and not able to speak the language you won't find a place to live.

user_7832 4y ago
Yeah but not really. In a lot of places if you can pay market rates landlords couldn’t care less about your language, especially if both of you are fluent in English. Important to note perhaps that this language thing is more for common/shared accommodations, not standalone units. Also by on a budget I mean a budget that’ll get me a very decent place even in for example Germany. The prices and costs of accommodation in the Netherlands is hilarious, ask anyone living here. One of my professors literally moved to Belgium to save on rent, despite needing to make a multi-hour journey when commuting multiple times a week.
- lm28469 4y ago
  > In a lot of places if you can pay market rates landlords couldn’t care less about your language How will you sign a contract you can't read ? Outside of tech hubs you can't even find a job in western Europe (not even speaking about the rest of the world) if you don't speak the language, without a job you won't find a place to rent > Also by on a budget I mean a budget that’ll get me a very decent place even in for example Germany. Compared to which city ? https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Netherlands&city1=Berlin&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Netherlands&city1=Munich&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&country2=Netherlands&city1=Paris&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...
mettamage 4y ago
I'm Dutch and work in tech. One of the reasons I'm a digital nomad is because Amsterdam is too expensive. For reference: the city center of Berlin is about twice as cheap, and Berlin isn't cheap anymore nowadays.
asdff 4y ago
Well, one of the big reasons for that in the netherlands is they don't build places to live. Take a look at the satellite view of amsterdam. Huge cycling town, you'd expect everything within a 5 or 10 mile radius of the central rail station to be built up pretty well to maximize the bikeshed, right? Nope. Medieval low rise apartments that are illegal to replace, and protected agricultural lands within 5 miles just to rub salt on the wound that the farmer's tractors harvesting crops for export in zunderdorp have better transit access than you, a rent burdoned low income worker central to the amsterdam economy.

user_7832 4y ago

Yeah but not really. In a lot of places if you can pay market rates landlords couldn’t care less about your language, especially if both of you are fluent in English. Important to note perhaps that this language thing is more for common/shared accommodations, not standalone units. Also by on a budget I mean a budget that’ll get me a very decent place even in for example Germany. The prices and costs of accommodation in the Netherlands is hilarious, ask anyone living here. One of my professors literally moved to Belgium to save on rent, despite needing to make a multi-hour journey when commuting multiple times a week.

lm28469 4y ago
> In a lot of places if you can pay market rates landlords couldn’t care less about your language How will you sign a contract you can't read ? Outside of tech hubs you can't even find a job in western Europe (not even speaking about the rest of the world) if you don't speak the language, without a job you won't find a place to rent > Also by on a budget I mean a budget that’ll get me a very decent place even in for example Germany. Compared to which city ? https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Netherlands&city1=Berlin&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Netherlands&city1=Munich&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou... https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&country2=Netherlands&city1=Paris&city2=Amsterdam&tracking=getDispatchComparison https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

mettamage 4y ago

I'm Dutch and work in tech. One of the reasons I'm a digital nomad is because Amsterdam is too expensive. For reference: the city center of Berlin is about twice as cheap, and Berlin isn't cheap anymore nowadays.

asdff 4y ago

Well, one of the big reasons for that in the netherlands is they don't build places to live. Take a look at the satellite view of amsterdam. Huge cycling town, you'd expect everything within a 5 or 10 mile radius of the central rail station to be built up pretty well to maximize the bikeshed, right? Nope. Medieval low rise apartments that are illegal to replace, and protected agricultural lands within 5 miles just to rub salt on the wound that the farmer's tractors harvesting crops for export in zunderdorp have better transit access than you, a rent burdoned low income worker central to the amsterdam economy.