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The goal seems to be keeping up more than innovation and inspiring people. It may well be due to the out of control bureaucracy stifling vision in Europe. ESA h

The goal seems to be keeping up more than innovation and inspiring people. It may well be due to the out of control bureaucracy stifling vision in Europe. ESA has done some interesting research in the past (if you're a physics nerd who cares about that kind of stuff), but even that was in cooperation with the Americans in the cases I know of. It's sad because the EU has a lot of resources and could have a great space program if there were more of a push for it. Also a friendly rivalry between the continents would help speed up progress in general. The EU isn't even trying to be the first to send humans to Mars, while a nation that was completely underdeveloped up till the 80s and relied heavily on technology transfer from Western and Eastern developed countries is now attempting to beat the US to it. Talk about a fighter - vs the old money kid with few ambitions.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> goal seems to be keeping up more than innovation and inspiring people Inspiration is sort of like a dim star, isn’t it? If you stare at it head on it vanishes.
panick21_ 4y ago
Inspiring people by not doing very much and spending massive money on bureaucracy and a large monopoly. I'm sure people of Europe are inspired.
- trompetenaccoun 4y ago
  My comment was ambiguously worded, sorry. I meant ESA is keeping up with what others are doing. Inspiring folks and radically innovating space tech doesn't even seem to be on their agenda, although in theory they have the capability.
sofixa 4y ago
> The EU isn't even trying to be the first to send humans to Mars I know this is an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm very glad they aren't. It's wildly impractical (humans can't survive on Mars without a lot of external help, and unlike the closest things we have to it, Antarctica and the ISS, emergency help would be months away at best), astronomically expensive, and would serve what goal exactly? I don't want my tax euros wasted on unrealistic vanity projects. Let Musk('s children) run his dystopian colony there first and we'll see how it goes.
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JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> goal seems to be keeping up more than innovation and inspiring people Inspiration is sort of like a dim star, isn’t it? If you stare at it head on it vanishes.

panick21_ 4y ago

Inspiring people by not doing very much and spending massive money on bureaucracy and a large monopoly. I'm sure people of Europe are inspired.

trompetenaccoun 4y ago
My comment was ambiguously worded, sorry. I meant ESA is keeping up with what others are doing. Inspiring folks and radically innovating space tech doesn't even seem to be on their agenda, although in theory they have the capability.

sofixa 4y ago

> The EU isn't even trying to be the first to send humans to Mars I know this is an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm very glad they aren't. It's wildly impractical (humans can't survive on Mars without a lot of external help, and unlike the closest things we have to it, Antarctica and the ISS, emergency help would be months away at best), astronomically expensive, and would serve what goal exactly? I don't want my tax euros wasted on unrealistic vanity projects. Let Musk('s children) run his dystopian colony there first and we'll see how it goes.

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