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I ultimately see space as humanity's ultimate home. Not in the Star Trek or Star Wars sense (because I don't belive FTL communication or travel is possible) but
by cletus 4y ago
I ultimately see space as humanity's ultimate home. Not in the Star Trek or Star Wars sense (because I don't belive FTL communication or travel is possible) but instead as a Dyson Swarm.
A Dyson Swarm is a collection of orbitals. With current technology and materials we could build O'Neil Cylinders that are 2-3 miles wide and 10-20 miles long that could house millions of people if necessary. Cover the whole thing in solar panels and fly enough of them around the Sun to capture the total solar energy output and you have an unbelievable amount of energy at your disposal and an unfathomably large amount of living area.
It's estimated humanity currently uses 10^11 Watts of power. Using all the sunlight that hits Earth would take that to 10^16 Watts. The orbitals of a Dyson Swarm take that to 10^26.
This can be built incrementally and requires no new physics of theoretical materials. It's just a truly massive engineering problem.
The most important problem we have now is reducing the cost of getting payloads into orbit. The Apollo/Shuttle era had costs of around ~$50,000/kg. Factoring in reuse, Falcon 9 may well be under $1,000/kg now. Starship may ultimately take this down to $100/kg. This needs to keep getting cheaper.
But here's my big problem with the stations we're building like the ISS and what the Europeans want to build here: they're all zero-gravity. What we should be doing is working on spin gravity stations to work out the issues and see how humans cope with that long term.
Yes, zero-gravity is useful for experiments but this isn't an either-or situation. You could have a spinning wheel attached to something not spinning for zero-gravity work environments.
- Deukhoofd 4y agoThe Lunar Gateway isn't really intended for long time habitation, it's more there as a "petrol stations" for moon and Mars missions. It allows for dropping off supplies and astronauts into space, before sending them on their way to the moon and beyond.
- messe 4y ago> it's more there as a "petrol stations Which makes very little sense from a delta V standpoint. I’ve yet to see a good justification for the gateway, especially after NASA selected Starship (which contains more useable living space than the proposed gateway) as its lander for Artemis.
- pmontra 4y agoMaybe to send fuel in orbit along several weeks or months instead of with one giant rocket. Less efficient but easier.
- messe 4y ago> Maybe to send fuel in orbit along several weeks or months instead of with one giant rocket. Less efficient but easier. Unless you're getting fuel from the moon, the sensible way to do that is to do your refueling in LEO. Otherwise your tankers of fuel are going to need to refuel in LEO to even get to the lunar gateway in the first place. That's in fact Starship's architecture: It's going to launch on a SuperHeavy booster, and then refuel in Low Earth Orbit, utilising tanker-variants of Starship.
- panick21_ 4y agoYou could do that by directly going to the moon. No matter how you look at it, it makes no sense.
- koheripbal 4y agoIt's more likely that ChatGPT will accomplish this before we do.