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I think you are the one falling into a trap about anthropomorphizing. It doesn't matter if it "wants" something by any particular concept of "want". All that

I think you are the one falling into a trap about anthropomorphizing. It doesn't matter if it "wants" something by any particular concept of "want". All that matters is that it can act, and does act, and the actions are sometimes both undesirable for us, and uncontrllable by us. I say uncontrollable because within certain contexts, they're not. We have to use the big red button. But if a thing that is made out of data and code can also generate data and write code, then we no longer have any big red buttons that it doesn't also have. We have already observed actions that are dangerous. It's too late to try to say they won't happen. They have already happened. It doesn't matter that the actions were generated by auto-completing text based on pattern matching from other text.

TomSwirly 4y ago
> it can act How exactly can it act? I should add that I'm more and more opposed to AI for a number of reasons, but there's no reason to suppose that Bing can actually act in any way other than shooting its mouth off.
- TT-392 4y ago
  I don't think it is possible to read only browse the internet. You can insert stuff into urls and make stuff happen server side. this ai can browse the internet, it can open urls, therefore it can act. Also, I think it is even able to do some more advanced stuff than just simple curl on websites, but idk for sure.
  - foverzar 4y ago
    > this ai can browse the internet, it can open urls, therefore it can act That is one super-weird image of NN functioning you have in your head. It obviously doesn't "browse the internet", that's the job of the crawler service, which then feeds the data to the data pipeline, that prepares the data for another iteration of inference job, which calibrates the weights of the NN. It can't "act", it can only respond to queries, that's it. Everything else is done by other hard-structured components, which are out of NNs control or scope. Let's keep it real, there is nothing magical here, we've been managing thousands of models similarly for probably nearly a decade now.
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  Communication is an act. Synthesizing what to communicate is an act. Didn't your grade school cover how the pen is mightier than the sword? Harm doesn't require robots with chainsaw hands.

TomSwirly 4y ago

> it can act How exactly can it act? I should add that I'm more and more opposed to AI for a number of reasons, but there's no reason to suppose that Bing can actually act in any way other than shooting its mouth off.

TT-392 4y ago
I don't think it is possible to read only browse the internet. You can insert stuff into urls and make stuff happen server side. this ai can browse the internet, it can open urls, therefore it can act. Also, I think it is even able to do some more advanced stuff than just simple curl on websites, but idk for sure.
- foverzar 4y ago
  > this ai can browse the internet, it can open urls, therefore it can act That is one super-weird image of NN functioning you have in your head. It obviously doesn't "browse the internet", that's the job of the crawler service, which then feeds the data to the data pipeline, that prepares the data for another iteration of inference job, which calibrates the weights of the NN. It can't "act", it can only respond to queries, that's it. Everything else is done by other hard-structured components, which are out of NNs control or scope. Let's keep it real, there is nothing magical here, we've been managing thousands of models similarly for probably nearly a decade now.
Brian_K_White 4y ago
Communication is an act. Synthesizing what to communicate is an act. Didn't your grade school cover how the pen is mightier than the sword? Harm doesn't require robots with chainsaw hands.