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Honestly it's really amusing, after a few years of reading things like "say nothing on exit interview, that's only problem", "HR is not on your side", "you owe

Honestly it's really amusing, after a few years of reading things like "say nothing on exit interview, that's only problem", "HR is not on your side", "you owe nothing to your employer, you are the most important", "it's not my employer concern that I have two jobs" etc. Suddenly, when other side plays the same card half of HN calls for blood :-)

whstl 4y ago
This advice have a reason though: there is a huge power disparity between employee and employer. Exit interviews can be and are used against employees while giving you nothing in return. HR can and does use daily communication against you if your boss/company wants and won't help you. Your employer will fire because of their interest because "it's only business", as their business is what's important to them. Yeah, my employer can hire two of me, why can't I fucking do the same? People give this advice because it makes sense. Companies get away with a lot of bullshit, and that includes the current trend of copycat layoffs. This is something that's fucking up the lives of people, including those that weren't laid off, and including people in other companies. If we believe CEOs, it happened (often admittedly) purely due to incompetence of them, while other theories point to this being a coordinated effort. Why should HN pat them in the head like some people want to?
- dzikimarian 4y ago
  > there is a huge power disparity between employee and employer. Is it really though? In IT? It's (or was at least) remarkably easy to vote with your feet and companies lost employees over really random stuff like employers stance on abortion rights or DoD contracts. > Yeah, my employer can hire two of me, why can't I fucking do the same? Not sure what do you mean here. > Companies get away with a lot of bullshit Honestly over the years I've seen tons of BS and primadonning from people with good negotiating position - funny to see people flipping the table, when market changed a bit.

whstl 4y ago

This advice have a reason though: there is a huge power disparity between employee and employer. Exit interviews can be and are used against employees while giving you nothing in return. HR can and does use daily communication against you if your boss/company wants and won't help you. Your employer will fire because of their interest because "it's only business", as their business is what's important to them. Yeah, my employer can hire two of me, why can't I fucking do the same? People give this advice because it makes sense. Companies get away with a lot of bullshit, and that includes the current trend of copycat layoffs. This is something that's fucking up the lives of people, including those that weren't laid off, and including people in other companies. If we believe CEOs, it happened (often admittedly) purely due to incompetence of them, while other theories point to this being a coordinated effort. Why should HN pat them in the head like some people want to?

dzikimarian 4y ago
> there is a huge power disparity between employee and employer. Is it really though? In IT? It's (or was at least) remarkably easy to vote with your feet and companies lost employees over really random stuff like employers stance on abortion rights or DoD contracts. > Yeah, my employer can hire two of me, why can't I fucking do the same? Not sure what do you mean here. > Companies get away with a lot of bullshit Honestly over the years I've seen tons of BS and primadonning from people with good negotiating position - funny to see people flipping the table, when market changed a bit.