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I think if what you meant was to critique how the left tries to protect the victims of society using the word sacred caste was let’s say a very poor choice beca

I think if what you meant was to critique how the left tries to protect the victims of society using the word sacred caste was let’s say a very poor choice because imo my reading just comes much more naturally

mindslight 4y ago
Of course your reading comes easier! Each political team captures political energy with specific critiques. Then the opposing team considers those critiques as the territory of the other, turns on their rationalization and cognitive dissonance, and avoids considering them on their merits. It does take work to go against that dynamic. You should do that work, despite it being harder than knee jerk dismissal. It's the only way to tame this partisan fueled polarization.
- space_fountain 4y ago
  Look I think the term dog whistle is over applied, but somehow this seems like the opposite to me, you’re doing a lot of work to turn what on its surface seems a pretty inflammatory statement into something gentle and nice. Yes there is as I said maybe a valid criticism to be had arguing that the left is engaged in a sort of affirmative action for ideas trying to counter the larger societal situation by overcompensating in the places they have some control over, but that isn’t the reading that comes naturally with the phrase “sacred caste”. At the very least sacred caste embeds a value judgement, but also the sacred caste really ought to have some extra power you know and it implies they need taken down a bit. Like if you didn’t think that there are plenty of better words that could have been used. It’s also notable that op didn’t choose to clarify themselves (assuming you aren’t op). What I will grant you is that, trying to maximize my empathy, op might agree that trans people are far from all powerful and perhaps even the stronger position that I was really getting at which is that overall across society they have less power than cis people, but I think they would have to reach for that empathy and they aren’t in the above comment and as I mentioned there are plenty of people making very similar statements who clearly mean something a lot stronger and I also suspect they did too. This is the only post by op I could find when I quickly looked at their page. It feels like they knew this had the potential to be inflammatory, posted it, and now your acting put upon that that it was taken in an inflammatory light.

mindslight 4y ago

Of course your reading comes easier! Each political team captures political energy with specific critiques. Then the opposing team considers those critiques as the territory of the other, turns on their rationalization and cognitive dissonance, and avoids considering them on their merits. It does take work to go against that dynamic. You should do that work, despite it being harder than knee jerk dismissal. It's the only way to tame this partisan fueled polarization.

space_fountain 4y ago
Look I think the term dog whistle is over applied, but somehow this seems like the opposite to me, you’re doing a lot of work to turn what on its surface seems a pretty inflammatory statement into something gentle and nice. Yes there is as I said maybe a valid criticism to be had arguing that the left is engaged in a sort of affirmative action for ideas trying to counter the larger societal situation by overcompensating in the places they have some control over, but that isn’t the reading that comes naturally with the phrase “sacred caste”. At the very least sacred caste embeds a value judgement, but also the sacred caste really ought to have some extra power you know and it implies they need taken down a bit. Like if you didn’t think that there are plenty of better words that could have been used. It’s also notable that op didn’t choose to clarify themselves (assuming you aren’t op). What I will grant you is that, trying to maximize my empathy, op might agree that trans people are far from all powerful and perhaps even the stronger position that I was really getting at which is that overall across society they have less power than cis people, but I think they would have to reach for that empathy and they aren’t in the above comment and as I mentioned there are plenty of people making very similar statements who clearly mean something a lot stronger and I also suspect they did too. This is the only post by op I could find when I quickly looked at their page. It feels like they knew this had the potential to be inflammatory, posted it, and now your acting put upon that that it was taken in an inflammatory light.