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I taught myself linux at age 13 when it came out based on my experience with msdos. So dail-up modems and slackware. Now with the Internet things are amazing

I taught myself linux at age 13 when it came out based on my experience with msdos. So dail-up modems and slackware. Now with the Internet things are amazing in terms of what you can learn if you are interested. I do think 1:1 tutoring is especially helpful but it doesn't help the socialization and group emotional regulation things that come up in school. Those are important skills as well.

anon291 4y ago
> I do think 1:1 tutoring is especially helpful but it doesn't help the socialization and group emotional regulation things that come up in school. Those are important skills as well. Unfortunately, children in school only learn how to emotionally regulate with children of the same age, which is why so many find 'adulting' hard.
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  > which is why so many find 'adulting' hard. Being an adult is hard. Its so much harder than being a student living with your parents. It does require a dedicated skillset that isn't taught to minors anymore, and it requires owning a lot more responsibility, all at once. When I was in school there was no HomeEc, no woodshop, no financial literacy, and the closest thing to health info I learned was that men are gross and need deodorant while women should stay a virgin. There is a real stress and challenge with maintaining a home, saving for retirement, etc as a young (and likely lower-income) person. And that's to say nothing about the growing income and affordability gap present across generations, making it harder for younger generations to achieve the life their parents had. A generation ago most women didn't work and everyone got married at a young age. Consequently, most adults lived in a shared household where one person spent their entire day cooking and cleaning and preparing the household.
sibeliuss 4y ago
> it doesn't help the socialization and group emotional regulation things that come up in school I think this is almost certainly a myth. There are a lot of ways that children can learn this.
- Foobar8568 4y ago
  Frankly speaking, no, kids need to be surrounded by other kids of their age. Maybe a bit less need as teenagers, but they will most likely end up socially inepted. The main difference is that we are living in a crazy world with free cellphone access by the time they turn 6 (classmates of my daughter were watching squid game and God knows what else for adults).
  - nmca 4y ago
    idk, modern schooling is fairly new in the grand scheme of things, so "kids need to be surrounded by (100s of) kids (exactly) their age" is probably not true? Large equal age cohorts is more likely an administrative consequences/simplification with) that's non-optimal than anything else. I hadn't noticed this assumption in my thinking until you stated it so explicitly though!
    - Foobar8568 4y ago
      We had to home school our daughter due to school fuck up and literal 8 years old psychopaths. After a few months it was obvious that she had to be in contact with other kids for much much longer and regularly than what she could have to the best of our abilities and location. But I agree that modern school system is problematic and clearly not optimal, just putting kids together due to their location and birthdate regardless of their interests and abilities. We are just middle class with enough money to spare to support nicely our daughter, but I lack the ability to be able to work anywhere which would have helped her tremendously. (private school are bloody expensive in Switzerland and of dubious quality)
      - sibeliuss 4y ago
        > After a few months it was obvious that she had to be in contact with other kids for much much longer and regularly than what she could have to the best of our abilities and location. This is what it comes down to, unfortunately. Due to circumstances (which I'm sorry about) you couldn't provide what you felt was necessary for your daughter. This happens! But one can't make a general rule out of it. I would suggest looking into homeschooling societies, though. There are a lot of them. Homeschooling, at least in the US, doesn't necessarily mean the child is locked inside with their parent all day and isolated from their peers.

anon291 4y ago

> I do think 1:1 tutoring is especially helpful but it doesn't help the socialization and group emotional regulation things that come up in school. Those are important skills as well. Unfortunately, children in school only learn how to emotionally regulate with children of the same age, which is why so many find 'adulting' hard.

vineyardmike 4y ago
> which is why so many find 'adulting' hard. Being an adult is hard. Its so much harder than being a student living with your parents. It does require a dedicated skillset that isn't taught to minors anymore, and it requires owning a lot more responsibility, all at once. When I was in school there was no HomeEc, no woodshop, no financial literacy, and the closest thing to health info I learned was that men are gross and need deodorant while women should stay a virgin. There is a real stress and challenge with maintaining a home, saving for retirement, etc as a young (and likely lower-income) person. And that's to say nothing about the growing income and affordability gap present across generations, making it harder for younger generations to achieve the life their parents had. A generation ago most women didn't work and everyone got married at a young age. Consequently, most adults lived in a shared household where one person spent their entire day cooking and cleaning and preparing the household.

sibeliuss 4y ago

> it doesn't help the socialization and group emotional regulation things that come up in school I think this is almost certainly a myth. There are a lot of ways that children can learn this.

Foobar8568 4y ago
Frankly speaking, no, kids need to be surrounded by other kids of their age. Maybe a bit less need as teenagers, but they will most likely end up socially inepted. The main difference is that we are living in a crazy world with free cellphone access by the time they turn 6 (classmates of my daughter were watching squid game and God knows what else for adults).
- nmca 4y ago
  idk, modern schooling is fairly new in the grand scheme of things, so "kids need to be surrounded by (100s of) kids (exactly) their age" is probably not true? Large equal age cohorts is more likely an administrative consequences/simplification with) that's non-optimal than anything else. I hadn't noticed this assumption in my thinking until you stated it so explicitly though!
  - Foobar8568 4y ago
    We had to home school our daughter due to school fuck up and literal 8 years old psychopaths. After a few months it was obvious that she had to be in contact with other kids for much much longer and regularly than what she could have to the best of our abilities and location. But I agree that modern school system is problematic and clearly not optimal, just putting kids together due to their location and birthdate regardless of their interests and abilities. We are just middle class with enough money to spare to support nicely our daughter, but I lack the ability to be able to work anywhere which would have helped her tremendously. (private school are bloody expensive in Switzerland and of dubious quality)
    - sibeliuss 4y ago
      > After a few months it was obvious that she had to be in contact with other kids for much much longer and regularly than what she could have to the best of our abilities and location. This is what it comes down to, unfortunately. Due to circumstances (which I'm sorry about) you couldn't provide what you felt was necessary for your daughter. This happens! But one can't make a general rule out of it. I would suggest looking into homeschooling societies, though. There are a lot of them. Homeschooling, at least in the US, doesn't necessarily mean the child is locked inside with their parent all day and isolated from their peers.