We weren't talking about those two standards alone and you haven't brought them up as examples either. All i have learned from you is you use strawman arguments

We weren't talking about those two standards alone and you haven't brought them up as examples either. All i have learned from you is you use strawman arguments. Ok, what part of U2F requires users to remember a secret? I have seen passwordless accounts you can take over simply by controlling a yubikey. I hate it when people seem to argue with me but argue against strawmans they're inventing. I agree, discourse here can't happen.