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I just want all of these companies to just fuck off at this point frankly

jszymborski 4y ago
Big ups to this sentiment. I think people are just way too tired of this behaviour and generally looking to alternatives.
- antihero 4y ago
  LIving in this capitalism that we are in has warped us as humans. People no longer do good shit, they figure out some grift that optimises some crap in such a way that makes them rich and uses marketing to make it seem like it benefits people. How long must this shit go on. Where are the good things at? Where did we die?
  - moremetadata 4y ago
    >Where did we die? Funnily enough I was saying the same thing tonight. Here in the UK I think it became all out screw people over when Margret Thatcher and the City of London had their 1980's yuppie boom. I under stand why the older generation in the former Soviet Union harp back to the good old days of the soviet union, life was simpler and more stable for many people. Now we have to navigate recessions about about 7-10years, have so many financial products in order to not get screwed over because the state is no longer up to the job. Life has become a bit of a free for all, and the extent and deviousness of some people to get money or manipulate people is off the scale imo. I also understand why we had to come off the gold standard, if we were every really on it, because it was/is arguably holding back the economy and innovation, so with fiat its easier to print money and keep the plates spinning, but in a global world, 3rd world country's have the cost advantage which is why so much is offshored to 3rd world countrys. When looking at central bank digital currency, the fact that digital money can be expired unless its spent, I think is a poor attempt to reduce the risk of boom and bust, good times and recessions. It also shows how money is being used by govt's and central banks to manipulate people like holding a carrot out in front of a donkey. Its a legal insult in some ways.
    - throwawaylinux 4y ago
      > Here in the UK I think it became all out screw people over when Margret Thatcher and the City of London had their 1980's yuppie boom. The one constant in all of it is the dehumanizing and scapegoating of the hated "others". It's not a new thing either, it's been pretty well documented from our earliest history. I would have thought The United Kingdom has a long tradition of doing just that, stretching way back before 1980, before the industrial revolution, even before feudalism.
      - moremetadata 4y ago
        Religions also engage in it, with Satan being the bad guy. If religions weren't so subconsciously sexist, surely Satan could have been a woman?
        ulizzle 4y ago
        The motivations of Satan in the Bible are very clear, so scapegoating or false demonizing isn't happening. Religions are not by nature inherently sexist, see veneration toward the Mother Mary or toward Mahadevi. But there are countless examples. All religions (a.k.a governments) that have lasted the test of time put men and women in a complementary position, as opposed to the modern state-mandated one, which actually is incredibly sexist, and seeks to scapegoat and demonize men in a frantic and irrational way.
        moremetadata 4y ago
        >The motivations of Satan in the Bible are very clear, so scapegoating or false demonizing isn't happening. Or is Satan a representation of the health of the individual and knowledge obtained by crypto haters? For example, the missionary's have a position which is highly recommended to increase histidine and histamine. That can put people especially teenage boys in awkward situations. Or we could look at the garden of eden and the apple, knowing the effect the ursolic acid found in fruit peel (Victorian Xmas Pudding) like apple skin and some herbs can have on the body. We know about health effects of old style apples, not necessarily the new breeds found in food malls and stores, because of old proverbs like the Pembrokeshire Proverb. >Religions are not by nature inherently sexist Who are you trying to kid? Just look at their hierarchical structure and history of employment and storytelling. I'll tell you know the Roman Catholic church is massively sexist, because AFAIK there has never been a female pope! Ergo Catholics are sexist if not overtly, certainly subconsciously with their beliefs. Same goes for a lot of other religions. > see veneration toward the Mother Mary Ah yes, the immaculate conception, so putting aside how the immaculate conception was inspected, I think the Japanese have a word pertaining to this form of unusual insemination, its called bukkakeru. > opposed to the modern state-mandated one, which actually is incredibly sexist, and seeks to scapegoat and demonize men in a frantic and irrational way. I think the modern state-mandated one are trying to address the sexism in society, which is a great form of psychological warfare against males, which the military will love because they are always looking to undermine insurgents and terrorists, whilst not recognising their own actions are radicalising individuals in society. What goes around, comes around, aka Karma.
  - rl3 4y ago
    >Where are the good things at? Where did we die? I'd argue we've always been dead in that way, as a species. The internet just makes it seem more apparent. Capitalism just happens to be the least shitty system we have that's been proven at scale thus far.
    - runarberg 4y ago
      Given the climate crises, the failure to distribute covid vaccines, mass hunger, and mass homelessness, it is hard to believe that capitalism has proven anything except its ability to prevent mass revolts.
      - Manuel_D 4y ago
        The USSR emitted plenty of carbon emissions, too. As did their satellite states: Poland was, and continues to be heavily reliant on coal. > the failure to distribute covid vaccines The fact that we even have COVID vaccines in such a short time is an amazing accomplishment. > mass hunger Capitalism has proven way more capable at avoiding famine than planned economics > mass homeless Homelessness in wealthy countries in an issue of drug addiction and mental health, not inability to build housing.
        runarberg 4y ago
        I am no supporter of the USSR nor of planned economies in general, but at no point were rulers in the communist party of the Soviet Union informed by their scientists of the effects of increased emissions, and then decided to double down on fossil fuel, and engage in a mass disinformation campaign to keep increasing pollution at the cost of our climate. I’m sure they would have, but they’re government collapsed before they were able, so, so far the climate crisis is a uniquely capitalist problem. As for Poland, it is thoroughly a capitalist country. All of the largest coal mining companies and energy companies there are publicly traded (although some, including PGE is majority [58%] owned by the state). It is safe to say that Poland’s continuing carbon emissions are more then happy to continue under a capitalist rule.
  - libraryatnight 4y ago
    I feel the same way. The sad thing is when companies do something horrible and people just say "What do you expect them to do? they exist to make money!" Like it's some impossibility to make money and treat people with decency.
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  - brigandish 4y ago
    Yeah, bring back rickets and toiling in the fields for sir and Vikings pillaging your village! Those halcyon days… We've another comment replying to this one that bemoans Maggie Thatcher when I'd be willing to bet they weren't alive in the 80s and display a complete ignorance of, well, basically all recorded history prior to that. I'd say you couldn't make it up but it's actually very easy to parody and predict. I'll leave you with Ray Davies singing a rendition of how his record company, manager, and agent ripped him off - sorry, exploited him as a worker, comrade - in the 1960's. Yes, grift and centralising of power to prey on the weak and ignorant are new inventions, if you were born yesterday! https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ25pfzLTo https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ25pfzLTo
  - punchingw0rms 4y ago
    Life will never be without challenges. We get comfortable in one way that used to be hard work, inconvenient or expensive and some new challenge pops up somewhere else to take its place. In answer to your question, I think we died as a race when we gave up the nomadic life. We stopped moving around, got comfortable and started accumulating property.
  - cynicalsecurity 4y ago
    You haven't lived under socialism. It's much worse.
somsak2 4y ago
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- speed_spread 4y ago
  For kicks, I've entered one of my alternate email addresses for an initial diagnostic. Then it asked for the rest of my info... Yeah, I'd like these companies to fuck off too.
- LoganDark 4y ago
  What the fuck is deleteme. "Please pay us to have you removed for 1 year". And then what? They'll use all the info I provided to add me back? Lol, no. I'll end up worse than I started. And also that's a shit ton of money. Edit: Looks like they also publish guides on how to do it yourself, that's actually kind of helpful. I guess the high price is to have someone continually checking and submitting removal requests on your behalf.
  - mike_d 4y ago
    DeleteMe collects your information then does searches for that info against the databases that power all the online "people search" websites. If there are hits, they pay to have them removed. If you don't renew your account, they just delete your data.
hoseja 4y ago
>"IF you doN't Pay you'RE juSt The prOdUct!!1!" >Company offers you means to pay. >^^ Which is it?
- Skeime 4y ago
  Well, from the linked post it seems like you’re paying $12 and you’re still the product. (There is no mention of reduced ads, for example.) (Though the truth has always been that you’re part customer, part product, of course.)
- misnome 4y ago
  Necessary but not sufficient.
- spacemadness 4y ago
  You are now paying and are still the product. This isn’t the clever gotcha you think it is.

Big ups to this sentiment. I think people are just way too tired of this behaviour and generally looking to alternatives.

antihero 4y ago
LIving in this capitalism that we are in has warped us as humans. People no longer do good shit, they figure out some grift that optimises some crap in such a way that makes them rich and uses marketing to make it seem like it benefits people. How long must this shit go on. Where are the good things at? Where did we die?
- moremetadata 4y ago
  >Where did we die? Funnily enough I was saying the same thing tonight. Here in the UK I think it became all out screw people over when Margret Thatcher and the City of London had their 1980's yuppie boom. I under stand why the older generation in the former Soviet Union harp back to the good old days of the soviet union, life was simpler and more stable for many people. Now we have to navigate recessions about about 7-10years, have so many financial products in order to not get screwed over because the state is no longer up to the job. Life has become a bit of a free for all, and the extent and deviousness of some people to get money or manipulate people is off the scale imo. I also understand why we had to come off the gold standard, if we were every really on it, because it was/is arguably holding back the economy and innovation, so with fiat its easier to print money and keep the plates spinning, but in a global world, 3rd world country's have the cost advantage which is why so much is offshored to 3rd world countrys. When looking at central bank digital currency, the fact that digital money can be expired unless its spent, I think is a poor attempt to reduce the risk of boom and bust, good times and recessions. It also shows how money is being used by govt's and central banks to manipulate people like holding a carrot out in front of a donkey. Its a legal insult in some ways.
  - throwawaylinux 4y ago
    > Here in the UK I think it became all out screw people over when Margret Thatcher and the City of London had their 1980's yuppie boom. The one constant in all of it is the dehumanizing and scapegoating of the hated "others". It's not a new thing either, it's been pretty well documented from our earliest history. I would have thought The United Kingdom has a long tradition of doing just that, stretching way back before 1980, before the industrial revolution, even before feudalism.
    - moremetadata 4y ago
      Religions also engage in it, with Satan being the bad guy. If religions weren't so subconsciously sexist, surely Satan could have been a woman?
      - ulizzle 4y ago
        The motivations of Satan in the Bible are very clear, so scapegoating or false demonizing isn't happening. Religions are not by nature inherently sexist, see veneration toward the Mother Mary or toward Mahadevi. But there are countless examples. All religions (a.k.a governments) that have lasted the test of time put men and women in a complementary position, as opposed to the modern state-mandated one, which actually is incredibly sexist, and seeks to scapegoat and demonize men in a frantic and irrational way.
        moremetadata 4y ago
        >The motivations of Satan in the Bible are very clear, so scapegoating or false demonizing isn't happening. Or is Satan a representation of the health of the individual and knowledge obtained by crypto haters? For example, the missionary's have a position which is highly recommended to increase histidine and histamine. That can put people especially teenage boys in awkward situations. Or we could look at the garden of eden and the apple, knowing the effect the ursolic acid found in fruit peel (Victorian Xmas Pudding) like apple skin and some herbs can have on the body. We know about health effects of old style apples, not necessarily the new breeds found in food malls and stores, because of old proverbs like the Pembrokeshire Proverb. >Religions are not by nature inherently sexist Who are you trying to kid? Just look at their hierarchical structure and history of employment and storytelling. I'll tell you know the Roman Catholic church is massively sexist, because AFAIK there has never been a female pope! Ergo Catholics are sexist if not overtly, certainly subconsciously with their beliefs. Same goes for a lot of other religions. > see veneration toward the Mother Mary Ah yes, the immaculate conception, so putting aside how the immaculate conception was inspected, I think the Japanese have a word pertaining to this form of unusual insemination, its called bukkakeru. > opposed to the modern state-mandated one, which actually is incredibly sexist, and seeks to scapegoat and demonize men in a frantic and irrational way. I think the modern state-mandated one are trying to address the sexism in society, which is a great form of psychological warfare against males, which the military will love because they are always looking to undermine insurgents and terrorists, whilst not recognising their own actions are radicalising individuals in society. What goes around, comes around, aka Karma.
- rl3 4y ago
  >Where are the good things at? Where did we die? I'd argue we've always been dead in that way, as a species. The internet just makes it seem more apparent. Capitalism just happens to be the least shitty system we have that's been proven at scale thus far.
  - runarberg 4y ago
    Given the climate crises, the failure to distribute covid vaccines, mass hunger, and mass homelessness, it is hard to believe that capitalism has proven anything except its ability to prevent mass revolts.
    - Manuel_D 4y ago
      The USSR emitted plenty of carbon emissions, too. As did their satellite states: Poland was, and continues to be heavily reliant on coal. > the failure to distribute covid vaccines The fact that we even have COVID vaccines in such a short time is an amazing accomplishment. > mass hunger Capitalism has proven way more capable at avoiding famine than planned economics > mass homeless Homelessness in wealthy countries in an issue of drug addiction and mental health, not inability to build housing.
      - runarberg 4y ago
        I am no supporter of the USSR nor of planned economies in general, but at no point were rulers in the communist party of the Soviet Union informed by their scientists of the effects of increased emissions, and then decided to double down on fossil fuel, and engage in a mass disinformation campaign to keep increasing pollution at the cost of our climate. I’m sure they would have, but they’re government collapsed before they were able, so, so far the climate crisis is a uniquely capitalist problem. As for Poland, it is thoroughly a capitalist country. All of the largest coal mining companies and energy companies there are publicly traded (although some, including PGE is majority [58%] owned by the state). It is safe to say that Poland’s continuing carbon emissions are more then happy to continue under a capitalist rule.
- libraryatnight 4y ago
  I feel the same way. The sad thing is when companies do something horrible and people just say "What do you expect them to do? they exist to make money!" Like it's some impossibility to make money and treat people with decency.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- brigandish 4y ago
  Yeah, bring back rickets and toiling in the fields for sir and Vikings pillaging your village! Those halcyon days… We've another comment replying to this one that bemoans Maggie Thatcher when I'd be willing to bet they weren't alive in the 80s and display a complete ignorance of, well, basically all recorded history prior to that. I'd say you couldn't make it up but it's actually very easy to parody and predict. I'll leave you with Ray Davies singing a rendition of how his record company, manager, and agent ripped him off - sorry, exploited him as a worker, comrade - in the 1960's. Yes, grift and centralising of power to prey on the weak and ignorant are new inventions, if you were born yesterday! https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ25pfzLTo https://youtube.com/watch?v=hlJ25pfzLTo
- punchingw0rms 4y ago
  Life will never be without challenges. We get comfortable in one way that used to be hard work, inconvenient or expensive and some new challenge pops up somewhere else to take its place. In answer to your question, I think we died as a race when we gave up the nomadic life. We stopped moving around, got comfortable and started accumulating property.
- cynicalsecurity 4y ago
  You haven't lived under socialism. It's much worse.

somsak2 4y ago

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speed_spread 4y ago
For kicks, I've entered one of my alternate email addresses for an initial diagnostic. Then it asked for the rest of my info... Yeah, I'd like these companies to fuck off too.
LoganDark 4y ago
What the fuck is deleteme. "Please pay us to have you removed for 1 year". And then what? They'll use all the info I provided to add me back? Lol, no. I'll end up worse than I started. And also that's a shit ton of money. Edit: Looks like they also publish guides on how to do it yourself, that's actually kind of helpful. I guess the high price is to have someone continually checking and submitting removal requests on your behalf.
- mike_d 4y ago
  DeleteMe collects your information then does searches for that info against the databases that power all the online "people search" websites. If there are hits, they pay to have them removed. If you don't renew your account, they just delete your data.

hoseja 4y ago

>"IF you doN't Pay you'RE juSt The prOdUct!!1!" >Company offers you means to pay. >^^ Which is it?

Skeime 4y ago
Well, from the linked post it seems like you’re paying $12 and you’re still the product. (There is no mention of reduced ads, for example.) (Though the truth has always been that you’re part customer, part product, of course.)
misnome 4y ago
Necessary but not sufficient.
spacemadness 4y ago
You are now paying and are still the product. This isn’t the clever gotcha you think it is.