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These bold slogans seem to be pretty good canaries, like when google removed "don't be evil"
by j-bos 4y ago
These bold slogans seem to be pretty good canaries, like when google removed "don't be evil"
- tpmx 4y ago"imgur will never have ads" Still kind of upset that that immediately obvious lie back in back in 2009 paid off. I was there in the background noise in that first reddit post, saying the obvious. It would not surprise me one bit if it turned out that the reddit founders manipulated that one post to make it go the right way.
- BurningFrog 4y agoI don't think that was ever an official statement?
- culturestate 4y agoIt was at the very top of Google's corporate code of conduct until[1] 2018. 1. https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do...
- charcircuit 4y agoIt's still in it in 2023. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
- culturestate 4y agoThis is how that document used to begin: > Preface “Don’t be evil.” Googlers generally apply those words to how we serve our users. But “Don’t be evil” is much more than that. Yes, it’s about providing our users unbiased access to information, focusing on their needs and giving them the best products and services that we can. But it’s also about doing the right thing more generally – following the law, acting honorably, and treating co-workers with courtesy and respect. The Google Code of Conduct is one of the ways we put “Don’t be evil” into practice. ...
- motbus3 4y agoUbiased here is a bit off isn't it? Since they put results of ads to some queries, this is a kind of a bias :thinking:
- charcircuit 4y agoMy point is that it is still in the code of conduct. Even if it doesn't have a whole paragraph explaining it, don't be evil is still part of the code of conduct
- tptacek 4y agoThis article is apparently a clickbait urban legend. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269029 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269029
- charcircuit 4y agoGoogle never removed it. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
- corobo 4y agoIt used to be their motto. It's now a footnote in their code of conduct. Don't Be Evil was relegated to a weird basement desk and had its stapler taken off it back in 2018.
- HaZeust 4y agoTo be clear, they moved it to the bottom - but I still can't comprehend why they did that. It did no favors to the public relations, LOTS of senior staff resigned, there was no legal binding to it - so they even could have just kept it there at the top and just... not mean it. Maybe I need perspective.
- tptacek 4y agoGoogle never removed "don't be evil", but that's a super common urban legend, because Gizmodo ran an (incorrect) story headlined "Google Removes 'Don't Be Evil' Clause From Its Code of Conduct". You can just go look at their code of conduct and see that this is false. (I don't care, and don't think "don't be evil" really ever meant much, but urban legends drive me a little batty.)
- SamvitJ 4y agoConfirmed: search for "don't be evil" in the Code of Conduct here: https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/. It's there at the end.
- msm_ 4y agoInteresting. I was even at Google when they "removed" it, I remember the internal uproar about "removing" it, and I was sure it was removed. Of course now you reminded me that the problem was "just" changing the "main" slogan to "do the right thing", and it was not actually removed. Funny how memories work.