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Counterpoint, the main demographic for this already uses ad/tracker blockers. I'm sure Meta has some ways around that but getting that $20/month is much easier

Counterpoint, the main demographic for this already uses ad/tracker blockers. I'm sure Meta has some ways around that but getting that $20/month is much easier from a willing participant.

dmix 4y ago
The lack of ad blockers on mobile is the real sweet spot. I pay for Youtube 100% to use it on mobile/ipad without ads. So even ad-blocking privacy people still see lots of ads if they use these apps.
- antiframe 4y ago
  Mobile does not lack ad blockers. I use uBlock Origin on Firefox without any problem.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Firefox's usage rate on Android is tiny, among that I doubt even >10-25% know you can install an adblocker (which is generous but they are probably more technical). And I use iOS on mobile.
  - grepfru_it 4y ago
    >Mobile Interesting, firefox on my iphone mobile[0] does not allow this... [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios
    - antiframe 4y ago
      That's unfortunate. But saying that mobile lacks ad blockers is a bit disingenuous given that the largest mobile platform has a very good ad blocker. In a similar vein, the world does not lack ICE cars because a minority of them are electric.
      - dmix 4y ago
        Mobile 100% lacks ad blockers. I'd be shocked if the stats on adblocker usage is even 1% of western mobile users.
    - jefftk 4y ago
      Firefox on iOS isn't really Firefox, Apple doesn't allow that. It's a thin skin around the platform-provided web view, essentially Safari. This really limits what Mozilla can support on iOS.
    - moneywoes 4y ago
      Any good adblock solutions on IOS?
    - MrStonedOne 4y ago
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pclmulqdq 4y ago
That is definitely not true. Tech workers and people who are tech savvy use ad/tracker blockers, regardless of how good of an ad target they are. They are a very small slice of consumers with excess income. In other words, a lot of people who use ad blockers are good ad targets, but the converse is not true.

Counterpoint, the main demographic for this already uses ad/tracker blockers. I'm sure Meta has some ways around that but getting that $20/month is much easier from a willing participant.

dmix 4y ago

The lack of ad blockers on mobile is the real sweet spot. I pay for Youtube 100% to use it on mobile/ipad without ads. So even ad-blocking privacy people still see lots of ads if they use these apps.

antiframe 4y ago
Mobile does not lack ad blockers. I use uBlock Origin on Firefox without any problem.
- dmix 4y ago
  Firefox's usage rate on Android is tiny, among that I doubt even >10-25% know you can install an adblocker (which is generous but they are probably more technical). And I use iOS on mobile.
- grepfru_it 4y ago
  >Mobile Interesting, firefox on my iphone mobile[0] does not allow this... [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/add-ons-firefox-ios
  - antiframe 4y ago
    That's unfortunate. But saying that mobile lacks ad blockers is a bit disingenuous given that the largest mobile platform has a very good ad blocker. In a similar vein, the world does not lack ICE cars because a minority of them are electric.
    - dmix 4y ago
      Mobile 100% lacks ad blockers. I'd be shocked if the stats on adblocker usage is even 1% of western mobile users.
  - jefftk 4y ago
    Firefox on iOS isn't really Firefox, Apple doesn't allow that. It's a thin skin around the platform-provided web view, essentially Safari. This really limits what Mozilla can support on iOS.
  - moneywoes 4y ago
    Any good adblock solutions on IOS?
  - MrStonedOne 4y ago
    [dead]

pclmulqdq 4y ago

That is definitely not true. Tech workers and people who are tech savvy use ad/tracker blockers, regardless of how good of an ad target they are. They are a very small slice of consumers with excess income. In other words, a lot of people who use ad blockers are good ad targets, but the converse is not true.