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These are apparently false DMCA letters. Attribution or payments aren’t really relevant. According to the article, the person filing the claims has no ownership

by tumult 4y ago

These are apparently false DMCA letters. Attribution or payments aren’t really relevant. According to the article, the person filing the claims has no ownership of the copyright. Even if they were being ripped off (which it doesn’t seem like they are) that wouldn’t give them ownership of the copyright.

Eisenstein 4y ago
The person is claiming rights to a version of the game not yet released because they wrote a game guide about how to do it and the game creators agreed to credit him in the new IP. This has led to him filing the DMCA requests and initiating a claim against the new product. The DMCA requests appear to be retaliatory. That's my understanding from the minimal information provided in the article. Note however we are getting one side of this story -- the developers. I have no idea what is going on and it is surprising how many times things swing around when both parties are heard (the Doom Eternal soundtrack issues come to mind)[0]. [0] https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-d...
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
  "They" implies multiple, and you are starting the sentence with a singular "the person", and finish the sentence with singular "him". Just stop playing stupid grammar games.
  - defrost 4y ago
    > "They" implies multiple No. It doesn't. The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf The New Oxford Dictionary of English (1998) not only accepts singular they, they also use the form in their definitions. And the New Oxford American Dictionary (Third Edition, 2010), calls singular they ‘generally accepted’ with indefinites, and ‘now common but less widely accepted’ with definite nouns, especially in formal contexts. https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/ https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they... Please, learn English.
    - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
      Well, one can cherry-pick one's authority on grammar, but any online translator will translate "They walk" to "Ils marchent". One also wouldn't write "they is", so, yes, it's a plural. At least, a sentence should be consistent and not intersperse "they" with "him".
      - defrost 4y ago
        The OED is far from a cherry pick - it's been the dictionary of English longer than any other. You have the air of that fundamentalist branch that forked off in central north america to worship a prescriptive Elements of (Our) Style by Stunk & Whine.
      - Eisenstein 4y ago
        P1: Who is that person over there? P2: The person in the green coat? P1: Yes, that one. P2: I don't know them. Do you think Joe knows who they are?
      - d1sxeyes 4y ago
        I suspect OP is trying to fight a subconscious bias that the person in question is male, which is why there is inconsistency. Many of us may also have made a similar assumption–I know I did, and I have certainly made edits to comments in the past where I have unconsciously assumed the gender of someone with no evidence and later noticed. However, we have no idea what gender the user is. English does not have a clear, unambiguous way of saying a third person of an unknown gender, but 'they' is definitely part of common vernacular. I agree that in general, it's probably better to be consistent internally within a sentence, but the rest of your argument is pretty badly flawed. With regards to resorting to French to try to argue, 'any online translator' will likely translate 'they walk' to 'ils marchent'. But it's equally possible that it could be 'elles marchent', 'on marche', or with enough context 'il/elle marche' regardless of the gender of the actual person (e.g. 'La personne s'approche dans la nuit. Elle marche avec des pas longs.'). There are also plenty of cases where we refer to singular nouns with plural verbs (e.g. 'the police are on their way'). Prescriptivism in English is an overall unrewarding topic, unlikely to make you any friends, and rarely helps to forward whatever point it is you're trying to make. I'm not sure that I understand exactly what your point is anyway, how do you propose we refer to someone of unknown gender?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  Regarding the DOOM Eternal Soundtrack, no reasonable person should have every believed the original story as claimed by Stratton in the first place. Unfortunately, taken as a whole gamers are a toxically childish and entitled community and it was all too easy to weaponize them against Gordon.
  - Eisenstein 4y ago
    Regardless of what people should have done, or did do, it serves as a stark lesson for everyone to never take a one-sided story (without accompanied compelling evidence) at face value.

by tumult 4y ago

Eisenstein 4y ago

The person is claiming rights to a version of the game not yet released because they wrote a game guide about how to do it and the game creators agreed to credit him in the new IP. This has led to him filing the DMCA requests and initiating a claim against the new product. The DMCA requests appear to be retaliatory. That's my understanding from the minimal information provided in the article. Note however we are getting one side of this story -- the developers. I have no idea what is going on and it is surprising how many times things swing around when both parties are heard (the Doom Eternal soundtrack issues come to mind)[0]. [0] https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-d...

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
"They" implies multiple, and you are starting the sentence with a singular "the person", and finish the sentence with singular "him". Just stop playing stupid grammar games.
- defrost 4y ago
  > "They" implies multiple No. It doesn't. The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf The New Oxford Dictionary of English (1998) not only accepts singular they, they also use the form in their definitions. And the New Oxford American Dictionary (Third Edition, 2010), calls singular they ‘generally accepted’ with indefinites, and ‘now common but less widely accepted’ with definite nouns, especially in formal contexts. https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/ https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they... Please, learn English.
  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 4y ago
    Well, one can cherry-pick one's authority on grammar, but any online translator will translate "They walk" to "Ils marchent". One also wouldn't write "they is", so, yes, it's a plural. At least, a sentence should be consistent and not intersperse "they" with "him".
    - defrost 4y ago
      The OED is far from a cherry pick - it's been the dictionary of English longer than any other. You have the air of that fundamentalist branch that forked off in central north america to worship a prescriptive Elements of (Our) Style by Stunk & Whine.
    - Eisenstein 4y ago
      P1: Who is that person over there? P2: The person in the green coat? P1: Yes, that one. P2: I don't know them. Do you think Joe knows who they are?
    - d1sxeyes 4y ago
      I suspect OP is trying to fight a subconscious bias that the person in question is male, which is why there is inconsistency. Many of us may also have made a similar assumption–I know I did, and I have certainly made edits to comments in the past where I have unconsciously assumed the gender of someone with no evidence and later noticed. However, we have no idea what gender the user is. English does not have a clear, unambiguous way of saying a third person of an unknown gender, but 'they' is definitely part of common vernacular. I agree that in general, it's probably better to be consistent internally within a sentence, but the rest of your argument is pretty badly flawed. With regards to resorting to French to try to argue, 'any online translator' will likely translate 'they walk' to 'ils marchent'. But it's equally possible that it could be 'elles marchent', 'on marche', or with enough context 'il/elle marche' regardless of the gender of the actual person (e.g. 'La personne s'approche dans la nuit. Elle marche avec des pas longs.'). There are also plenty of cases where we refer to singular nouns with plural verbs (e.g. 'the police are on their way'). Prescriptivism in English is an overall unrewarding topic, unlikely to make you any friends, and rarely helps to forward whatever point it is you're trying to make. I'm not sure that I understand exactly what your point is anyway, how do you propose we refer to someone of unknown gender?
AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
Regarding the DOOM Eternal Soundtrack, no reasonable person should have every believed the original story as claimed by Stratton in the first place. Unfortunately, taken as a whole gamers are a toxically childish and entitled community and it was all too easy to weaponize them against Gordon.
- Eisenstein 4y ago
  Regardless of what people should have done, or did do, it serves as a stark lesson for everyone to never take a one-sided story (without accompanied compelling evidence) at face value.