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This is satire, right?

benjaminwootton 4y ago
No. As I mentioned, leaving your feelings about him personally aside, he is challenging the model for social media and now having the approach cloned by the market leader. I hated the moderations/censorship on these platforms and I dislike the adtech/tracking business model so he has my support on both of those angles. Meta also appear to be bundling in customer support which is probably my third objection to big tech. So I’ll thank Elon for that one too.
- anonymousab 4y ago
  What he has demonstrated so far is that you don't need those things if your goal is to lose money, and you can stay alive a little longer in those situations by simply ignoring several laws wholesale. He still has yet to demonstrate any other outcomes than making twitter vastly less profitable.
- ripvanwinkle 4y ago
  The ad tracking is not going away with this new offer
  - thfuran 4y ago
    Yeah, there's too much money to be made. It's unlikely to go away unless made entirely illegal.
- smrtinsert 4y ago
  The model includes ignoring real estate contracts? He's having an impact like someone dumping a trash bin on your lawn has an impact
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- silverwasthere 4y ago
  You would love mastodon then. There is no censorship at all, but at the same time everyone is free to ignore you either personally or for their whole instance. Best of both worlds.
  - fleddr 4y ago
    Quite the contradiction. Mastodon has more censorship, not less.
    - silverwasthere 4y ago
      No one can stop you from finding or starting an instance with your values. Its the same kind of freedom the copy machine or the home word processor gives. No, it doesn't let you be a prick with someone elses resources. They have no obligation to listen or amplify you. Perhaps people's expectations of free speech are a little greedy?
      - fleddr 4y ago
        "Its the same kind of freedom the copy machine or the home word processor gives." Thanks for confirming my point, glad you agree.
        silverwasthere 4y ago
        You seem to be confused. No one on mastodon can stop you from speaking. They can just choose not to listen. Censorship would be stopping you from speaking. As long as you're not breaking any laws, no one is going to shut you down and prevent you from being on the network (eg, your hosting company shutting you down). All you stand to lose is a generous system administrator doing the work of staying online for you for free. Is free speech in your mind something someone automatically has obligation to share? Thats forced, not free.
        fleddr 4y ago
        I'm not confused, your definition of censorship is just weird and impractical. Yes, I can write what I want in my personal word editor but quite obviously that's not the topic at hand in a discussion on social networks.

No. As I mentioned, leaving your feelings about him personally aside, he is challenging the model for social media and now having the approach cloned by the market leader. I hated the moderations/censorship on these platforms and I dislike the adtech/tracking business model so he has my support on both of those angles. Meta also appear to be bundling in customer support which is probably my third objection to big tech. So I’ll thank Elon for that one too.

anonymousab 4y ago
What he has demonstrated so far is that you don't need those things if your goal is to lose money, and you can stay alive a little longer in those situations by simply ignoring several laws wholesale. He still has yet to demonstrate any other outcomes than making twitter vastly less profitable.
ripvanwinkle 4y ago
The ad tracking is not going away with this new offer
- thfuran 4y ago
  Yeah, there's too much money to be made. It's unlikely to go away unless made entirely illegal.
smrtinsert 4y ago
The model includes ignoring real estate contracts? He's having an impact like someone dumping a trash bin on your lawn has an impact
- deleted 4y ago
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silverwasthere 4y ago
You would love mastodon then. There is no censorship at all, but at the same time everyone is free to ignore you either personally or for their whole instance. Best of both worlds.
- fleddr 4y ago
  Quite the contradiction. Mastodon has more censorship, not less.
  - silverwasthere 4y ago
    No one can stop you from finding or starting an instance with your values. Its the same kind of freedom the copy machine or the home word processor gives. No, it doesn't let you be a prick with someone elses resources. They have no obligation to listen or amplify you. Perhaps people's expectations of free speech are a little greedy?
    - fleddr 4y ago
      "Its the same kind of freedom the copy machine or the home word processor gives." Thanks for confirming my point, glad you agree.
      - silverwasthere 4y ago
        You seem to be confused. No one on mastodon can stop you from speaking. They can just choose not to listen. Censorship would be stopping you from speaking. As long as you're not breaking any laws, no one is going to shut you down and prevent you from being on the network (eg, your hosting company shutting you down). All you stand to lose is a generous system administrator doing the work of staying online for you for free. Is free speech in your mind something someone automatically has obligation to share? Thats forced, not free.
        fleddr 4y ago
        I'm not confused, your definition of censorship is just weird and impractical. Yes, I can write what I want in my personal word editor but quite obviously that's not the topic at hand in a discussion on social networks.