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Not that I disagree but in this case it seems to be mostly about "free" cloud storage ending: > Starting April 1, the company would no longer support models th
by ilyt 4y ago
Not that I disagree but in this case it seems to be mostly about "free" cloud storage ending:
> Starting April 1, the company would no longer support models that included no-fee seven-day rolling storage of video clips—a well-advertised selling point.
And cameras were still being able to be used with external storage
> Instead, Arlo device owners could upgrade to one of the company’s paid plans, starting at $13 a month or buy an add-on device to store videos.
Which is... exactly what you'd have to do with fully open source system anyway, buy a box to store it or pay someone for storage.
- cs702 4y ago> Not that I disagree but... :-) Keep in mind: Customers thought they were purchasing cameras with seven days of storage.
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- ilyt 4y agoI mean if you thought you will pay flat fee and get online hosting till the end of time (and most likely didn't read the fine print that said it isn't infinite in time), that's on you
- yppop 4y agoWell, that sounds like someone whoa attained their ‘sage wisdom’ through bitter experience —- and not through native wisdom. Not sayin’ you’re wrong, just sayin’. PS - yes, at one time, I probably bought a pair of those ‘X-ray glasses’ advertised in the backs of comic books.
- ilyt 4y agoI guess achieving "sage wisdom" of "reading the terms of service you pay for" attained at cost of only few shitty cameras is cheap for the affected.
- gameman144 4y agoEh, I disagree here. Like some responsibility is always on the consumer, but clear information is essential in good markets. If I pay for a hard drive and get one TB of space, I get it til the end of time. If some other product says "1 TB of storage", with no other context, it'd be easy to confuse the two (especially for people who aren't tech-savvy).
- ilyt 4y ago> If I pay for a hard drive and get one TB of space, I get it til the end of time. If some other product says "1 TB of storage", with no other context, it'd be easy to confuse the two (especially for people who aren't tech-savvy). If your physical object you bought that stores the data physically on the object , sure. But it was not that, it was cloud service
- gameman144 4y agoBut people bought physical cameras. It's not unreasonable to think "I am buying this camera with one week of storage". If you don't know how technology works and it's not clearly explained, it's very easy to misconstrue that.
- indymike 4y ago> Which is... exactly what you'd have to do with fully open source system anyway, buy a box to store it or pay someone for storage. Wrong. I'd simply host the video on some device I have sitting around. Storing streamed video isn't hard to do and there are many ways to do it that take little effort. Being forced to pay money for something I already have capability to do is the problem. It's wasteful and makes me happy I did not buy Arlo's product.
- ilyt 4y agoRight but the selling point was never "... and you can just use your NAS to store it!". We can complain about their shitty e-waste producing model but also acknowledge it is not product targeted to nerds building their own video monitoring infrastructure, OSS or not.
- indymike 4y ago> Right but the selling point was never "... and you can just use your NAS to store it!". This is actually the problem with these products, there's absolutely no fallback. I wonder how many people buy another Arlo when they get bit by the artificial end of life?