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Intentional Camera Movement Photography Magazine

108 points by Kaibeezy 4y ago

graderjs 4y ago
Slightly disappointed...I read this as International Camel Movement Photography Magazine Now that would have been quirky and interesting... I'm sure this is good, but still. edit: I checked this out, and this is GREAT! It's beautiful. Especially the free sample issue^0 [pdf] ^0 = https://indd.adobe.com/view/15c9a7d1-1653-4baa-80ac-9e4c1fe7fb4c https://indd.adobe.com/view/15c9a7d1-1653-4baa-80ac-9e4c1fe7...
formerly_proven 4y ago
Not to be confused with camera movements
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2h 4y ago
why does the submitted URL, which is essentially a static page, require running JavaScript from zenfolio.com to even display anything?
somethingsaid 4y ago
If anyone is confused by what this magazine is about, like I was, you can find a free issue here https://www.icmphotomag.com/free-sample-issue https://www.icmphotomag.com/free-sample-issue Looks like an interesting concept!
- wpietri 4y ago
  I was definitely confused! Their Instagram was also helpful for me to understand what kinds of images they had in mind: https://www.instagram.com/icmphotomag/ https://www.instagram.com/icmphotomag/
- achow 4y ago
  In intentional camera movement (ICM), a camera is moved during the exposure for a creative or artistic effect. This causes the image points to move across the recording medium, producing an apparent streaking in the resulting image. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_camera_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_camera_movement
  - chongli 4y ago
    Ahhh so this is different from camera movements [1] used in large format photography to manipulate the focal plane and achieve various effects. These movements take place only before the exposure, not during. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera#Movements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera#Movements
  - jakzurr 4y ago
    Fairly common, also. Consider panning, in sports photography, where you track a player in a field while the background blurs from side to side. Also in motor sports, some nature photography, or any time a photographer wants a motion effect, perhaps in street photography, or even snapshots at family events. Edit: similar effect in travel photos, where someone shoots from a moving vehicle - far background might look fairly stable, near background (cyclists & vehicles) blur, people in your vehicle might be stable, depending on shutter speed and how much bouncing on the road.
    - davchana 4y ago
      One pretty easy (I didn't know the name at that time) example is, a still person in front of a moving train (at station for example). E.g. https://www.instagram.com/p/BPpyrCMhwN_/?igshid=NmE0MzVhZDY= https://www.instagram.com/p/BPpyrCMhwN_/?igshid=NmE0MzVhZDY=
      - kqr 4y ago
        Though this is moving background, not moving camera.
- daggersandscars 4y ago
  The founder's personal site (https://stephjohnphoto.com https://stephjohnphoto.com) also has (many) examples of ICMP.
  - thewebcount 4y ago
    Yeah, I found that site much more interesting than the cover of the latest issue. My first thought was, “this looks terrible,” but after seeing her site, I quite like it.
- modeless 4y ago
  This is neat. I accidentally took an image like this and used it as wallpaper for a while, but never considered trying to take more intentionally. Here's mine: https://photos.app.goo.gl/71Rdc5jKFd1FSS6A6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/71Rdc5jKFd1FSS6A6
locusofself 4y ago
I'm not saying this isn't a cool thing, maybe it is. But "Intentional Camera Movement" is an ambiguous phrase. It took me a bit to realize it's about moving cameras intentionally (ie, blurry photos). Not about being intentional with or about cameras as a social movement. hah
- Eduard 4y ago
  Maybe it's because English is not my first language, but I understood it as it's intended just by the name.
  - andrewflnr 4y ago
    Native speaker, I got it the first time. I don't think that has anything to do with it, it's just fully ambiguous and your bias will determine which meaning you land on first.
- antiterra 4y ago
  FYI, f you look up camera toss photography you can see stuff that doesn’t really look ‘blurry’ at all. There are other techniques that result in ‘smearing’ but still retain a feel of nominal sharpness.
kebman 4y ago
I've used various techniques for slow sync flash throughout my photography career. Worked exceptionally well for stage photography, night-time events, electronica concerts, and the like. Slow sync flash is when you let ambient light expose the film or sensor for a while, before you freeze the scene by activating the flash late. It really takes "painting with light" to a new level, though it's of course not the only way to use intentional camera movement. Nearly all my photographs from such events use some kind of intentional camera movement together with a delayed or early flash sync. Slow sync flash is a delightful technique that you can be really, really creative with. Try it with double exposures, for instance, or with weirdly synced monoblocs. I've seen great photos taken of dancers and animals in movement done that way. Moreover, this technique (if you've got it buried in your camera settings somewhere), sets you free to really disregard some of the holy tenets of photography, which is to never, ever move the camera, ever. Nay, in fact it prompts you to be dynamic and jittery, to lounge forward into the music, and let the final image really SHOW how great that moment really was.
- stavros 4y ago
  This is one of two ways to do this (as you know), called rear curtain sync (or the flash fires at the end of the exposure). You can also use front curtain sync, which fires at the start of the exposure, and get a slightly different effect. For example, with a stationary camera and a galloping horse, front curtain sync would show a ghost of the horse running forward from its image, whereas rear curtain sync would show the ghost run towards the image (ie the horse would have a ghost "tail").
  - Wistar 4y ago
    I’ve always preferred the results of first curtain flash as they seem to make more visual, and temporal, sense to me, IMAGE->trails, rather than trails->IMAGE.
    - stavros 4y ago
      I think it really depends on the subject and your own personal aesthetic. I prefer rear curtain, because it makes more sense to me that the moving object has a "tail", but it's too specific to the subject to really have a solid rule.
adwi 4y ago
I was expecting tilt-shift photography from the title. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt–shift_photography https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt–shift_photography
FranklinMaillot 4y ago
If you like this kind of photography, checkout @sallymason100 on instagram. She has some beautiful ICM work. https://www.instagram.com/sallymason100/ https://www.instagram.com/sallymason100/
hackama 4y ago
What I find hilarious is the About page doesn't even state what the acronym IS, let alone the definition. Absolutely bizarre.
- mannykannot 4y ago
  At first, I thought the same thing too, but, to be fair, this is a site that clearly caters to people who are familiar with acronym and the associated activity. As such, it might not be a good candidate for posting here, and there is no reason why every site should be. In this case, the free sample issue of the magazine, linked to elsewhere in these comments by somethingsaid, would seem to be a better introduction.
  - Kaibeezy 4y ago
    In my experience here, people sometimes appreciate a bit of a puzzle and the opportunity for discovery, the results of which they then post in the comments. What topic fits that better than this form of blurry photography, where even the name is ambiguous?
irthomasthomas 4y ago
Wow, I'm a huge fan of taking these types of photo but never knew what they called until now. Here's one I have mounted under 1 inch acrylic and hanging on my wall: Night Time On The Estuary https://i.imgur.com/MLtm7dO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MLtm7dO.jpg Crossing The Bridge: https://i.imgur.com/403oHiv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/403oHiv.jpg London Tour: https://i.imgur.com/2uwmseH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2uwmseH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x4C0GSE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x4C0GSE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BmPd4bE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BmPd4bE.jpg
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psychomugs 4y ago
wrapped.nil is the master at this https://www.instagram.com/wrapped.nil/ https://www.instagram.com/wrapped.nil/
pushedx 4y ago
Back when “camera phones” were just starting to take off, I used to love taking pictures like this with my LG VX5200. It seemed to have a good mix of high sensitivity and slow image processing to get really interesting effects by spinning the phone in all different planes.
8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y ago
Any tutorials you'd recommend for learning how to take shots like these? Inspiring stuff.
jacquesm 4y ago
Tools like this are great when used sparingly and by people that know what they want to achieve. But in practice they are overused by people that use it as a gimmick to make otherwise boring photos more interesting. And most of the time they fail at that. There are a number of photographers that seem to believe that ICM is their ticked to money and fame and I wish them well but it doesn't do it for me. And there are a couple of really talented photographers that have used ICM a handful of times and those images stand out as highly original using ICM in unexpected ways. And in sports and nature photography (really, anything where the subject is moving fast and the camera is handheld or panning along with the subject) it is used simply to get the subject sharp and the background blurry.
fernly 4y ago
I took a look at the sample issue (see link in another response) and my first response was -- this will be wiped out so fast by generative AI image makers.

108 points by Kaibeezy 4y ago

Slightly disappointed...I read this as International Camel Movement Photography Magazine Now that would have been quirky and interesting... I'm sure this is good, but still. edit: I checked this out, and this is GREAT! It's beautiful. Especially the free sample issue^0 [pdf] ^0 = https://indd.adobe.com/view/15c9a7d1-1653-4baa-80ac-9e4c1fe7fb4c https://indd.adobe.com/view/15c9a7d1-1653-4baa-80ac-9e4c1fe7...

formerly_proven 4y ago

Not to be confused with camera movements

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2h 4y ago

why does the submitted URL, which is essentially a static page, require running JavaScript from zenfolio.com to even display anything?

somethingsaid 4y ago

If anyone is confused by what this magazine is about, like I was, you can find a free issue here https://www.icmphotomag.com/free-sample-issue https://www.icmphotomag.com/free-sample-issue Looks like an interesting concept!

wpietri 4y ago
I was definitely confused! Their Instagram was also helpful for me to understand what kinds of images they had in mind: https://www.instagram.com/icmphotomag/ https://www.instagram.com/icmphotomag/
achow 4y ago
In intentional camera movement (ICM), a camera is moved during the exposure for a creative or artistic effect. This causes the image points to move across the recording medium, producing an apparent streaking in the resulting image. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_camera_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_camera_movement
- chongli 4y ago
  Ahhh so this is different from camera movements [1] used in large format photography to manipulate the focal plane and achieve various effects. These movements take place only before the exposure, not during. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera#Movements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_camera#Movements
- jakzurr 4y ago
  Fairly common, also. Consider panning, in sports photography, where you track a player in a field while the background blurs from side to side. Also in motor sports, some nature photography, or any time a photographer wants a motion effect, perhaps in street photography, or even snapshots at family events. Edit: similar effect in travel photos, where someone shoots from a moving vehicle - far background might look fairly stable, near background (cyclists & vehicles) blur, people in your vehicle might be stable, depending on shutter speed and how much bouncing on the road.
  - davchana 4y ago
    One pretty easy (I didn't know the name at that time) example is, a still person in front of a moving train (at station for example). E.g. https://www.instagram.com/p/BPpyrCMhwN_/?igshid=NmE0MzVhZDY= https://www.instagram.com/p/BPpyrCMhwN_/?igshid=NmE0MzVhZDY=
    - kqr 4y ago
      Though this is moving background, not moving camera.
daggersandscars 4y ago
The founder's personal site (https://stephjohnphoto.com https://stephjohnphoto.com) also has (many) examples of ICMP.
- thewebcount 4y ago
  Yeah, I found that site much more interesting than the cover of the latest issue. My first thought was, “this looks terrible,” but after seeing her site, I quite like it.
modeless 4y ago
This is neat. I accidentally took an image like this and used it as wallpaper for a while, but never considered trying to take more intentionally. Here's mine: https://photos.app.goo.gl/71Rdc5jKFd1FSS6A6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/71Rdc5jKFd1FSS6A6

locusofself 4y ago

I'm not saying this isn't a cool thing, maybe it is. But "Intentional Camera Movement" is an ambiguous phrase. It took me a bit to realize it's about moving cameras intentionally (ie, blurry photos). Not about being intentional with or about cameras as a social movement. hah

Eduard 4y ago
Maybe it's because English is not my first language, but I understood it as it's intended just by the name.
- andrewflnr 4y ago
  Native speaker, I got it the first time. I don't think that has anything to do with it, it's just fully ambiguous and your bias will determine which meaning you land on first.
antiterra 4y ago
FYI, f you look up camera toss photography you can see stuff that doesn’t really look ‘blurry’ at all. There are other techniques that result in ‘smearing’ but still retain a feel of nominal sharpness.

kebman 4y ago

I've used various techniques for slow sync flash throughout my photography career. Worked exceptionally well for stage photography, night-time events, electronica concerts, and the like. Slow sync flash is when you let ambient light expose the film or sensor for a while, before you freeze the scene by activating the flash late. It really takes "painting with light" to a new level, though it's of course not the only way to use intentional camera movement. Nearly all my photographs from such events use some kind of intentional camera movement together with a delayed or early flash sync. Slow sync flash is a delightful technique that you can be really, really creative with. Try it with double exposures, for instance, or with weirdly synced monoblocs. I've seen great photos taken of dancers and animals in movement done that way. Moreover, this technique (if you've got it buried in your camera settings somewhere), sets you free to really disregard some of the holy tenets of photography, which is to never, ever move the camera, ever. Nay, in fact it prompts you to be dynamic and jittery, to lounge forward into the music, and let the final image really SHOW how great that moment really was.

stavros 4y ago
This is one of two ways to do this (as you know), called rear curtain sync (or the flash fires at the end of the exposure). You can also use front curtain sync, which fires at the start of the exposure, and get a slightly different effect. For example, with a stationary camera and a galloping horse, front curtain sync would show a ghost of the horse running forward from its image, whereas rear curtain sync would show the ghost run towards the image (ie the horse would have a ghost "tail").
- Wistar 4y ago
  I’ve always preferred the results of first curtain flash as they seem to make more visual, and temporal, sense to me, IMAGE->trails, rather than trails->IMAGE.
  - stavros 4y ago
    I think it really depends on the subject and your own personal aesthetic. I prefer rear curtain, because it makes more sense to me that the moving object has a "tail", but it's too specific to the subject to really have a solid rule.

adwi 4y ago

I was expecting tilt-shift photography from the title. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt–shift_photography https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt–shift_photography

FranklinMaillot 4y ago

If you like this kind of photography, checkout @sallymason100 on instagram. She has some beautiful ICM work. https://www.instagram.com/sallymason100/ https://www.instagram.com/sallymason100/

hackama 4y ago

What I find hilarious is the About page doesn't even state what the acronym IS, let alone the definition. Absolutely bizarre.

mannykannot 4y ago
At first, I thought the same thing too, but, to be fair, this is a site that clearly caters to people who are familiar with acronym and the associated activity. As such, it might not be a good candidate for posting here, and there is no reason why every site should be. In this case, the free sample issue of the magazine, linked to elsewhere in these comments by somethingsaid, would seem to be a better introduction.
- Kaibeezy 4y ago
  In my experience here, people sometimes appreciate a bit of a puzzle and the opportunity for discovery, the results of which they then post in the comments. What topic fits that better than this form of blurry photography, where even the name is ambiguous?

irthomasthomas 4y ago

Wow, I'm a huge fan of taking these types of photo but never knew what they called until now. Here's one I have mounted under 1 inch acrylic and hanging on my wall: Night Time On The Estuary https://i.imgur.com/MLtm7dO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MLtm7dO.jpg Crossing The Bridge: https://i.imgur.com/403oHiv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/403oHiv.jpg London Tour: https://i.imgur.com/2uwmseH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2uwmseH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x4C0GSE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/x4C0GSE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BmPd4bE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BmPd4bE.jpg

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psychomugs 4y ago

wrapped.nil is the master at this https://www.instagram.com/wrapped.nil/ https://www.instagram.com/wrapped.nil/

pushedx 4y ago

Back when “camera phones” were just starting to take off, I used to love taking pictures like this with my LG VX5200. It seemed to have a good mix of high sensitivity and slow image processing to get really interesting effects by spinning the phone in all different planes.

8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y ago

Any tutorials you'd recommend for learning how to take shots like these? Inspiring stuff.

jacquesm 4y ago

Tools like this are great when used sparingly and by people that know what they want to achieve. But in practice they are overused by people that use it as a gimmick to make otherwise boring photos more interesting. And most of the time they fail at that. There are a number of photographers that seem to believe that ICM is their ticked to money and fame and I wish them well but it doesn't do it for me. And there are a couple of really talented photographers that have used ICM a handful of times and those images stand out as highly original using ICM in unexpected ways. And in sports and nature photography (really, anything where the subject is moving fast and the camera is handheld or panning along with the subject) it is used simply to get the subject sharp and the background blurry.

fernly 4y ago

I took a look at the sample issue (see link in another response) and my first response was -- this will be wiped out so fast by generative AI image makers.