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I've tried to convince artists to transition to the AI-augmented future, since October. There's almost no successes. I've seen artist communities on multiple we

I've tried to convince artists to transition to the AI-augmented future, since October. There's almost no successes. I've seen artist communities on multiple websites, in multiple languages. At first they tried to laugh at the AI. Now the AI has improved so radically so fast, they universally prefer to stick their head in the sand, and ban discussion of AI altogether, its all denial and rage. On the more optimistic side. I see an extraordinary explosion in artistic innovation, just look at websites like CivitAI. The massive community all training subcomponents of the models for each other to share. The models rapidly improving every month just through fine-tuning and theoretical innovation, without stabilityAI's involvement (They are distracted by lawsuits now). There are many 3d-artists intensely experimenting with AI art, to say make AI-anime, which has illustration qualities on every frame (A previous impossibility due to the costs involved). It seems with AI, it'll really cleave communities in two. The ones who eagerly embrace it, seem to enjoy it extraordinarily, and achieve quite a lot of popularity and success. But the rest just want to pretend it doesn't exist, waiting till employers realize that they are no longer needed. Regarding programming, it doesn't appear that AI programming can replace humans. Programming is very similar to novel writing in terms of complexity for AIs. And AIs are still extremely terrible at long-form storytelling. The lesson is to aggressively use AI tools as much as possible, to understand the long-term weaknesses of AIs, and deliver your values in those areas as a human.

bamboozled 4y ago
I've tried to convince artists to transition to the AI-augmented future, since October. This comment is funny, "I've given the artists fair warning of 6 months that they're careers are over." But the rest just want to pretend it doesn't exist, waiting till employers realize that they are no longer needed. So when the employers fire the artists, who will replace them sorry? Will the C-level executives at my company be using DALL-E instead? How does it work? Would they just not hire a "creative assistant" who will probably hire other assistants ? I've seen artist communities on multiple websites, in multiple languages. At first they tried to laugh at the AI. Now the AI has improved so radically so fast, they universally prefer to stick their head in the sand, and ban discussion of AI altogether, its all denial and rage. I'd love to see these raging artist discussions? Can you link a few?
- GaggiX 4y ago
  >who will replace them sorry? A group of individuals who will use AI as an augmentation, even people with inferior drawing skills but able to get better results faster, a man with an excavator replaces several people with a shovel. I'd love to see these raging artist discussions? Can you link a few? I'm not OP but Twitter is full, you can start from @kortizart and find all kinds of account of people who are illustrators but now only rage against AI art.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    I saw almost no "raging" though? Yeah obviously concerned about the future of her profession and some difficult questions asked about IP theft and copyright, but that's about it? Edit: There is some raging in the replies but it's twitter and everyone is raging on there. There was some raging about Netflix using "AI" to generate backgrounds for a cartoon, but ultimately everyone will lose, including Netflix if this really is very automated, Almost anyone will soon be able to create a Netflix so I'll just cancel my subscription and watch free generated content uploaded to Youtube I guess?
    - UncleEntity 4y ago
      > Almost anyone will soon be able to create a Netflix so I'll just cancel my subscription and watch free generated content uploaded to Youtube I guess? What’s wrong with that? I pretty much only watch people doing their thing on YouTube and I’m entertained enough. I have a couple years of tv shows I haven’t gotten around to watching because of YouTube peeps keeping me interested.
      - bamboozled 4y ago
        Nothing but it's interesting that while Netflix is pushing forwards to replace their staff with AI generated content, they're also pushing closer to a world where a large part of their value add is obsolete.
- notahacker 4y ago
ZephyrBlu 4y ago
I understand AI programming isn't there yet, but it seems likely that sometime in the next decade the same thing that's happening to artists will happen to programmers.
- epiphonium 4y ago
  I've heard the analogy (I think I might have originally read it on HN) that software engineers in the 2020s are like Detroit auto workers in the 1950s - highly skilled, highly paid, and doomed. I hope this is wrong. I don't think the market for highly technical "computer guys" is going to disappear, but the nature of the job is probably going to change dramatically. But then it wouldn't be the first time - hasn't the job already changed completely since, say, the 1980s? I can't imagine working in this job before the internet existed, but many did. Maybe in another decade or two I'll be saying that I can't remember what it was like to do this kind of work before AI was this good.
- brookst 4y ago
  Already happened. It’s called product management and spec writing. The vast majority of professional programmers today are essentially sign painters working from spec.

bamboozled 4y ago

I've tried to convince artists to transition to the AI-augmented future, since October. This comment is funny, "I've given the artists fair warning of 6 months that they're careers are over." But the rest just want to pretend it doesn't exist, waiting till employers realize that they are no longer needed. So when the employers fire the artists, who will replace them sorry? Will the C-level executives at my company be using DALL-E instead? How does it work? Would they just not hire a "creative assistant" who will probably hire other assistants ? I've seen artist communities on multiple websites, in multiple languages. At first they tried to laugh at the AI. Now the AI has improved so radically so fast, they universally prefer to stick their head in the sand, and ban discussion of AI altogether, its all denial and rage. I'd love to see these raging artist discussions? Can you link a few?

GaggiX 4y ago
>who will replace them sorry? A group of individuals who will use AI as an augmentation, even people with inferior drawing skills but able to get better results faster, a man with an excavator replaces several people with a shovel. I'd love to see these raging artist discussions? Can you link a few? I'm not OP but Twitter is full, you can start from @kortizart and find all kinds of account of people who are illustrators but now only rage against AI art.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  I saw almost no "raging" though? Yeah obviously concerned about the future of her profession and some difficult questions asked about IP theft and copyright, but that's about it? Edit: There is some raging in the replies but it's twitter and everyone is raging on there. There was some raging about Netflix using "AI" to generate backgrounds for a cartoon, but ultimately everyone will lose, including Netflix if this really is very automated, Almost anyone will soon be able to create a Netflix so I'll just cancel my subscription and watch free generated content uploaded to Youtube I guess?
  - UncleEntity 4y ago
    > Almost anyone will soon be able to create a Netflix so I'll just cancel my subscription and watch free generated content uploaded to Youtube I guess? What’s wrong with that? I pretty much only watch people doing their thing on YouTube and I’m entertained enough. I have a couple years of tv shows I haven’t gotten around to watching because of YouTube peeps keeping me interested.
    - bamboozled 4y ago
      Nothing but it's interesting that while Netflix is pushing forwards to replace their staff with AI generated content, they're also pushing closer to a world where a large part of their value add is obsolete.
notahacker 4y ago

ZephyrBlu 4y ago

I understand AI programming isn't there yet, but it seems likely that sometime in the next decade the same thing that's happening to artists will happen to programmers.

epiphonium 4y ago
I've heard the analogy (I think I might have originally read it on HN) that software engineers in the 2020s are like Detroit auto workers in the 1950s - highly skilled, highly paid, and doomed. I hope this is wrong. I don't think the market for highly technical "computer guys" is going to disappear, but the nature of the job is probably going to change dramatically. But then it wouldn't be the first time - hasn't the job already changed completely since, say, the 1980s? I can't imagine working in this job before the internet existed, but many did. Maybe in another decade or two I'll be saying that I can't remember what it was like to do this kind of work before AI was this good.
brookst 4y ago
Already happened. It’s called product management and spec writing. The vast majority of professional programmers today are essentially sign painters working from spec.