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Consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. The mathematical structure is geometric in some way. The quantum domain acts as a sieve. Constructive and distinctive int

Consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. The mathematical structure is geometric in some way. The quantum domain acts as a sieve. Constructive and distinctive interference perturbs the quantum substrate, which is the existential universe itself. Consciousness is thus the universe peering back into itself, and living systems are the biotechnology which animate this phenomena. The unique properties of this are: Our “computation” is non-linear. The quantum coherence creates a holographic subjective singularity. These allow the illusion of one perspective among billions of participating neurons. The more neurons in a cluster, the higher resolution the “pocket of consciousness”. These bubbles compete in the mind for influence. I say this acts much like a hologram. The sieve of consciousness works through constructive and destructive interference.

alexvoda 4y ago
All you've said beeing a hypothesis. We have yet to see proof of any of it.
- inphovore 4y ago
  Geeze, that’s not how truth works actually (not confined to the horizon of ignorance), though I accept your skepticism. Your downvotes are your HYPOCRISY! I have a whole long list of assertions you will fight me on for the love of your ignorance. In this moment I cannot fully invest in exhaustive debate. I will prattle on a little more in an unstructured form for the sake of intrigue. There are several things going, one being this parallel discussion on quantum entanglement (and the parallel discussion for our minds being hackable for another time.) I would like to describe to you the technology of consciousness in ways I have come to understand, yet I will expect to be scorned and badgered for the inherently abstract nature of our topic. Neurons in isolation exhibit a telemetric awareness of one and other The Cosmic Serpent was inspiring in my youth. The primitive ideas the author discusses relate. Microtubul structures likely provide a substrate for our experiential being. Electrochemical processes flash these substrates, and then gently and delicately suss the state resolve as though a sieve + stack. The sieve is the constructive /destructive aspect. I say “stack” as resolve is apparently pushed and pulled or read/write like memories, yet I believe this is where our non-classical thought strategy arises. The outcome is more like a micro-inference rather than a faithful memory. Constructive and destructive patterns form an analog isolated holographic “image” (though not merely a picture, in every shade and depth of every experience we are capable of having.) Any information can be pushed into this stack, yet interference collapses to associations (or novelty) producing a primitive psycho-emotional echo, other parts of the brain process into higher level responses. Consciousness is not intelligence. Consciousness coopts intelligence as a tool for perpetuation. How does this not sound like consciousness: “consciousness is the inflection upon the potential of our existential being.” Existential being is any matter, yet all cold matter is dormant without animation through life or other technology. The potential is the hyper-dimensional capacity of the carefully arranged atoms in our neural substrate. Inflection is any perturbation of the quantum dynamic (which is usually pure chaos.) it is the atom in the universe which exists, the living system is a technology which extends and allows the aggregate scope of potential awareness and feedback. The quantum layer is like an echo chamber for your jelly bag brain. This echo chamber is the material universe (which you are) echoing experience upon its analog subjectively scoped potentials. See the idea, not the comment quality.
  - colonCapitalDee 4y ago
    What did I just read? Is this satire?
    - goatlover 4y ago
      Bing chat being fed into chatGPT prompted by the thread's title?
      - inphovore 4y ago
        Muddled minds of men, mincing meaning with more words.
        Valgrim 4y ago
        Whenever I watch a western movie there's always this character type who uses much more complicated words and convoluted sentences than his counterparts. On Tvtropes they call it the "Southern-Fried Genius" and "Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness" (Damn I love this website, another lost hour) I always love to imagine how fun an exercise it must be for a writer to invent those dialogues.
        alexvoda 4y ago
        As an unexpected consequence of your illadvised and unfortunate mentioning of the cyberspace resource which shall not be named for fear of it corrupting the minds of unsuspecting victims and devouring their temporal currency, I have discovered 'The Thing That Goes "Doink"'.
- drowsspa 4y ago
  I think that calling this a hypothesis is quite charitable.
  - inphovore 4y ago
    I didn’t really mean to question the phrase hypothesis, rather that “lacking proof is not proof of lacking”, and why not lay out more form of curious extrapolation if that is after all, why we are here.
    - Valgrim 4y ago
      Your original claim is that consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. A) We can't even define consciousness, let alone describe it's physical nature. B) Even if it depends on quantum mechanics, it doesn't make it magic or unique to biology. C) It's an extraordinary claim, so back it up, man. I don't care about curious extrapolation, except in science fiction.
      - inphovore 4y ago
        A) I just DID! I DEFINE CONSCIOUSNESS AS THE INFLECTION UPON THE SUBSTRATE OF EXISTENTIAL BEING! B) I say all life has some smidgen of this magic. It is non-classical and will not emerge out of complexity. All humans do not have “an equal amount”. Next argument may be of capacity. The universe is the medium, consciousness the inflection, life the technology which animates. C) voices in our heads. I know, I know, you don’t want to believe that either. Pay attention, check back in ten years. Hear them? Doubt we’re being screwed with? That old “master mind theory” from a hundred years ago touched upon this before our taboo of speaking of these voices dismissed them as crazy. Snail telegraph? There are clues throughout history. We’re entangled, and it’s more of a hassle than a gift.
      - 2snakes 4y ago
        One definition of consciousness is: the distinction between self and other.

alexvoda 4y ago

All you've said beeing a hypothesis. We have yet to see proof of any of it.

inphovore 4y ago
Geeze, that’s not how truth works actually (not confined to the horizon of ignorance), though I accept your skepticism. Your downvotes are your HYPOCRISY! I have a whole long list of assertions you will fight me on for the love of your ignorance. In this moment I cannot fully invest in exhaustive debate. I will prattle on a little more in an unstructured form for the sake of intrigue. There are several things going, one being this parallel discussion on quantum entanglement (and the parallel discussion for our minds being hackable for another time.) I would like to describe to you the technology of consciousness in ways I have come to understand, yet I will expect to be scorned and badgered for the inherently abstract nature of our topic. Neurons in isolation exhibit a telemetric awareness of one and other The Cosmic Serpent was inspiring in my youth. The primitive ideas the author discusses relate. Microtubul structures likely provide a substrate for our experiential being. Electrochemical processes flash these substrates, and then gently and delicately suss the state resolve as though a sieve + stack. The sieve is the constructive /destructive aspect. I say “stack” as resolve is apparently pushed and pulled or read/write like memories, yet I believe this is where our non-classical thought strategy arises. The outcome is more like a micro-inference rather than a faithful memory. Constructive and destructive patterns form an analog isolated holographic “image” (though not merely a picture, in every shade and depth of every experience we are capable of having.) Any information can be pushed into this stack, yet interference collapses to associations (or novelty) producing a primitive psycho-emotional echo, other parts of the brain process into higher level responses. Consciousness is not intelligence. Consciousness coopts intelligence as a tool for perpetuation. How does this not sound like consciousness: “consciousness is the inflection upon the potential of our existential being.” Existential being is any matter, yet all cold matter is dormant without animation through life or other technology. The potential is the hyper-dimensional capacity of the carefully arranged atoms in our neural substrate. Inflection is any perturbation of the quantum dynamic (which is usually pure chaos.) it is the atom in the universe which exists, the living system is a technology which extends and allows the aggregate scope of potential awareness and feedback. The quantum layer is like an echo chamber for your jelly bag brain. This echo chamber is the material universe (which you are) echoing experience upon its analog subjectively scoped potentials. See the idea, not the comment quality.
- colonCapitalDee 4y ago
  What did I just read? Is this satire?
  - goatlover 4y ago
    Bing chat being fed into chatGPT prompted by the thread's title?
    - inphovore 4y ago
      Muddled minds of men, mincing meaning with more words.
      - Valgrim 4y ago
        Whenever I watch a western movie there's always this character type who uses much more complicated words and convoluted sentences than his counterparts. On Tvtropes they call it the "Southern-Fried Genius" and "Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness" (Damn I love this website, another lost hour) I always love to imagine how fun an exercise it must be for a writer to invent those dialogues.
        alexvoda 4y ago
        As an unexpected consequence of your illadvised and unfortunate mentioning of the cyberspace resource which shall not be named for fear of it corrupting the minds of unsuspecting victims and devouring their temporal currency, I have discovered 'The Thing That Goes "Doink"'.
drowsspa 4y ago
I think that calling this a hypothesis is quite charitable.
- inphovore 4y ago
  I didn’t really mean to question the phrase hypothesis, rather that “lacking proof is not proof of lacking”, and why not lay out more form of curious extrapolation if that is after all, why we are here.
  - Valgrim 4y ago
    Your original claim is that consciousness is a quantum phenomenon. A) We can't even define consciousness, let alone describe it's physical nature. B) Even if it depends on quantum mechanics, it doesn't make it magic or unique to biology. C) It's an extraordinary claim, so back it up, man. I don't care about curious extrapolation, except in science fiction.
    - inphovore 4y ago
      A) I just DID! I DEFINE CONSCIOUSNESS AS THE INFLECTION UPON THE SUBSTRATE OF EXISTENTIAL BEING! B) I say all life has some smidgen of this magic. It is non-classical and will not emerge out of complexity. All humans do not have “an equal amount”. Next argument may be of capacity. The universe is the medium, consciousness the inflection, life the technology which animates. C) voices in our heads. I know, I know, you don’t want to believe that either. Pay attention, check back in ten years. Hear them? Doubt we’re being screwed with? That old “master mind theory” from a hundred years ago touched upon this before our taboo of speaking of these voices dismissed them as crazy. Snail telegraph? There are clues throughout history. We’re entangled, and it’s more of a hassle than a gift.
    - 2snakes 4y ago
      One definition of consciousness is: the distinction between self and other.