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>We're researching artificial intelligence, not artificial consciousness. They go hand in hand, otherwise how can you have consciousness? One element of consci

>We're researching artificial intelligence, not artificial consciousness. They go hand in hand, otherwise how can you have consciousness? One element of consciousness is being aware of existential threats in order to make intelligent decisions. Some of those threats are easier to learn from than others, namely because it causes pain or does something that harms the feedback loop ego but is not an existential threat.

Jensson 4y ago
> One element of consciousness is being aware of existential threats in order to make intelligent decisions No, your subconsciousness does that. When you are asleep and your subconsciousness hears a scream it might decide to wake you up, or it might deem it wasn't a signal of danger and let you sleep. So a process can be very smart without being conscious, they are two separate things. ChatGPT doesn't behave like a conscious being, it behaves like a subconsciousness at best.
- moremetadata 4y ago
  >When you are asleep and your subconsciousness hears a scream it might decide to wake you up You arent taking into account the sleep phase an individual is in at the time the noise is heard, or the state of their immune system. For example the state of an individuals immune system could mean they are a light sleeper or a deep sleeper. >ChatGPT doesn't behave like a conscious being, it behaves like a subconsciousness at best. Its using a reinforcement learning model but these are basic because they dont take into account how chemistry works in biological systems. Chemistry in biological systems is the reinforcement learning model for lifeforms, including higher species and so when a reinforcement learning model for AI can quantify the chemicals effects, then you can get closer to imitating biological lifeforms and when that happens lifespans will drastically increases, which is why big pharma also has a dog in this race!
hnfong 4y ago
If you define consciousness that way, a cockroach has a consciousness. But it's obviously less intelligent than ChatGPT in the areas that we care about.
- moremetadata 4y ago
  Whats intelligence? Doing an IQ test? A cockroach couldn't do that, but its chemistry and biology is different so its idea of consciousness, eg pleasure pain etc will be different to ours and yet it can survive in a wide range of environments, like we can, yet we dont have things like the GULO gene (vitamin C making gene( so our survival is dependent on superior intelligence and our hands with opposable thumbs.

Jensson 4y ago

> One element of consciousness is being aware of existential threats in order to make intelligent decisions No, your subconsciousness does that. When you are asleep and your subconsciousness hears a scream it might decide to wake you up, or it might deem it wasn't a signal of danger and let you sleep. So a process can be very smart without being conscious, they are two separate things. ChatGPT doesn't behave like a conscious being, it behaves like a subconsciousness at best.

moremetadata 4y ago
>When you are asleep and your subconsciousness hears a scream it might decide to wake you up You arent taking into account the sleep phase an individual is in at the time the noise is heard, or the state of their immune system. For example the state of an individuals immune system could mean they are a light sleeper or a deep sleeper. >ChatGPT doesn't behave like a conscious being, it behaves like a subconsciousness at best. Its using a reinforcement learning model but these are basic because they dont take into account how chemistry works in biological systems. Chemistry in biological systems is the reinforcement learning model for lifeforms, including higher species and so when a reinforcement learning model for AI can quantify the chemicals effects, then you can get closer to imitating biological lifeforms and when that happens lifespans will drastically increases, which is why big pharma also has a dog in this race!

hnfong 4y ago

If you define consciousness that way, a cockroach has a consciousness. But it's obviously less intelligent than ChatGPT in the areas that we care about.

moremetadata 4y ago
Whats intelligence? Doing an IQ test? A cockroach couldn't do that, but its chemistry and biology is different so its idea of consciousness, eg pleasure pain etc will be different to ours and yet it can survive in a wide range of environments, like we can, yet we dont have things like the GULO gene (vitamin C making gene( so our survival is dependent on superior intelligence and our hands with opposable thumbs.