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You should tell your clients that there are still compliant ways to integrate Google Analytics even assuming the new legal framework doesn't stick. But the Tra

You should tell your clients that there are still compliant ways to integrate Google Analytics even assuming the new legal framework doesn't stick. But the Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy Framework was signed in December, so the current GDPR rulings are a moot point since those were about Privacy Shield. Should take another few years to find out what the courts think of the latest agreement. Eventually one of them will work.

stiray 4y ago
And NOYB is already preparing to take it down, like it did with previous agreement. https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter-future-eu-us-data-transfers https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter-future-eu-us-data-transfers I just dont understand why would you dangle left and right with your businesses. Why don't you just set up a local analytics (there are bunch of oss alternatives) and get rid of google analytics?
- hakre 4y ago
  Also I don't get it. People sometimes seemed to be obsessed by analytics that much they forget making their website. And then replace doing the real work with decisions by numbers they get out of "Analytics". And all that on the cost of the privacy of the customer. Often only for negative gain.
atoav 4y ago
What I tell my clients is that it is their responsibility to care about their customer's data and that I as a customer certainly feel better about brands that treat me well.
wkat4242 4y ago
I doubt one of them will really work. The US and EU have a very different concept of privacy. Not just for government espionage (US citizens have good protection but everyone else is fair game) but also for commercial purposes. For us in the EU everything should be opt-in, a bit like Apple does on iOS but Google refuses to implement on Android. It's really telling that the politicians have no recourse but to try the same thing over and over again instead of just coming up with a real solution. There probably isn't one.
hakre 4y ago
alternatively you could also tell your clients about how costly that is, which cheaper and more user-friendly alternatives exists. also if you stop using analytics and do this right, you gain performance and visits and keep your site on the right track. but that's an art, not a product to sell, sorry.

stiray 4y ago

And NOYB is already preparing to take it down, like it did with previous agreement. https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter-future-eu-us-data-transfers https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter-future-eu-us-data-transfers I just dont understand why would you dangle left and right with your businesses. Why don't you just set up a local analytics (there are bunch of oss alternatives) and get rid of google analytics?

hakre 4y ago
Also I don't get it. People sometimes seemed to be obsessed by analytics that much they forget making their website. And then replace doing the real work with decisions by numbers they get out of "Analytics". And all that on the cost of the privacy of the customer. Often only for negative gain.

atoav 4y ago

What I tell my clients is that it is their responsibility to care about their customer's data and that I as a customer certainly feel better about brands that treat me well.

wkat4242 4y ago

I doubt one of them will really work. The US and EU have a very different concept of privacy. Not just for government espionage (US citizens have good protection but everyone else is fair game) but also for commercial purposes. For us in the EU everything should be opt-in, a bit like Apple does on iOS but Google refuses to implement on Android. It's really telling that the politicians have no recourse but to try the same thing over and over again instead of just coming up with a real solution. There probably isn't one.

hakre 4y ago

alternatively you could also tell your clients about how costly that is, which cheaper and more user-friendly alternatives exists. also if you stop using analytics and do this right, you gain performance and visits and keep your site on the right track. but that's an art, not a product to sell, sorry.