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All the wealthy influencers who moved to Portugal, and sell content around “escaping america to live the american dream” - great work. I’m sure the locals all

All the wealthy influencers who moved to Portugal, and sell content around “escaping america to live the american dream” - great work. I’m sure the locals all appreciate and love you.

cactusplant7374 4y ago
Moving somewhere permanently without any local friends or family is a horrible idea for most people. It’s a fantasy. Edit: Since I’m already being rate limited because I’m on dangs list because I argued with him… It’s not easy for everyone to find new friends and romantic partners. Please don’t brush off the harsh realities of immigrating. My immigrant friends all tell me how hard it was to move to the US.
- davchana 4y ago
  Yes, only if one is in an good economy country (or first world country). Otherwise, economic migrations happen all the time, and I myself moved multiple times in life (temporary) for better job prospects and permanently for personal reasons to other countries, with not a known single soul in new place.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  If you're mostly self reliant where you live today and the climate sucks then it can work out just fine, especially if you are willing to really learn the local language.
- JCharante 4y ago
  You can just make new friends though. In my experience it’s infinitely easier to make friends abroad because in a way it’s you guys vs the locals
- robjan 4y ago
  It really depends on where you move. I would never move to suburban America, for example, because of what you mentioned. But if you're young(ish) and/or don't have too many family commitments it's pretty easy to find a hobby based or cultural community in most cities.
- rr808 4y ago
  Your immigrant friends might say its hard but they still choose it over staying at home. I'm an immigrant, I've lived in 5 countries, it was pretty easy to make friends in all those places, though they were big global multi cultural cities.
neither_color 4y ago
The number of Americans residing in Portugal is at its highest level in more than a decade, according to agency data. There were about 7,000 Americans living in the country at the end of 2021, more than double three years earlier. source: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/14/a-cool-destination-to-just-start-over-burned-out-millennials-are-flocking-to-portugal.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/14/a-cool-destination-to-just-s... Sincere question: Does anyone know how to differentiate between rise in real estate caused by a couple thousand Americans in a country of millions and the general inflation and rise in real estate being felt everywhere? I'm not fully convinced that a few thousand foreigners "ruined" Portugal, CDMX, and other such places. This seems more like a classic case of blame the foreigners, not our policies nationalism. The average digital nomad cannot afford to buy houses for cash in Europe.
- cactusplant7374 4y ago
  I have a suspicion the real issue is tourism and not expat residents. It’s driving up rent in downtown Lisbon.
  - j4hdufd8 4y ago
    How so?
    - consumer451 4y ago
      I would imagine via AirBnB or short term rentals in general. Last time I stayed in Lisbon I stayed in a converted apartment, via AirBnB. It certainly puts pressure on the long term rental market.
  - hugoromano 4y ago
    The decrease in the typical duration of tourists' stays in Portugal, which has gone from 6.7 days to 4 days in the past decade, is likely to affect various aspects of the country's tourism infrastructure, including its airports. Additionally, there has been a problem with noise pollution in residential areas due to touristic establishments like bars and nightclubs.
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digianarchist 4y ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/levelsio/status/1624358155022123008 https://mobile.twitter.com/levelsio/status/16243581550221230...
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All the wealthy influencers who moved to Portugal, and sell content around “escaping america to live the american dream” - great work. I’m sure the locals all appreciate and love you.

cactusplant7374 4y ago

Moving somewhere permanently without any local friends or family is a horrible idea for most people. It’s a fantasy. Edit: Since I’m already being rate limited because I’m on dangs list because I argued with him… It’s not easy for everyone to find new friends and romantic partners. Please don’t brush off the harsh realities of immigrating. My immigrant friends all tell me how hard it was to move to the US.

davchana 4y ago
Yes, only if one is in an good economy country (or first world country). Otherwise, economic migrations happen all the time, and I myself moved multiple times in life (temporary) for better job prospects and permanently for personal reasons to other countries, with not a known single soul in new place.
jacquesm 4y ago
If you're mostly self reliant where you live today and the climate sucks then it can work out just fine, especially if you are willing to really learn the local language.
JCharante 4y ago
You can just make new friends though. In my experience it’s infinitely easier to make friends abroad because in a way it’s you guys vs the locals
robjan 4y ago
It really depends on where you move. I would never move to suburban America, for example, because of what you mentioned. But if you're young(ish) and/or don't have too many family commitments it's pretty easy to find a hobby based or cultural community in most cities.
rr808 4y ago
Your immigrant friends might say its hard but they still choose it over staying at home. I'm an immigrant, I've lived in 5 countries, it was pretty easy to make friends in all those places, though they were big global multi cultural cities.

neither_color 4y ago

The number of Americans residing in Portugal is at its highest level in more than a decade, according to agency data. There were about 7,000 Americans living in the country at the end of 2021, more than double three years earlier. source: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/14/a-cool-destination-to-just-start-over-burned-out-millennials-are-flocking-to-portugal.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/14/a-cool-destination-to-just-s... Sincere question: Does anyone know how to differentiate between rise in real estate caused by a couple thousand Americans in a country of millions and the general inflation and rise in real estate being felt everywhere? I'm not fully convinced that a few thousand foreigners "ruined" Portugal, CDMX, and other such places. This seems more like a classic case of blame the foreigners, not our policies nationalism. The average digital nomad cannot afford to buy houses for cash in Europe.

cactusplant7374 4y ago
I have a suspicion the real issue is tourism and not expat residents. It’s driving up rent in downtown Lisbon.
- j4hdufd8 4y ago
  How so?
  - consumer451 4y ago
    I would imagine via AirBnB or short term rentals in general. Last time I stayed in Lisbon I stayed in a converted apartment, via AirBnB. It certainly puts pressure on the long term rental market.
- hugoromano 4y ago
  The decrease in the typical duration of tourists' stays in Portugal, which has gone from 6.7 days to 4 days in the past decade, is likely to affect various aspects of the country's tourism infrastructure, including its airports. Additionally, there has been a problem with noise pollution in residential areas due to touristic establishments like bars and nightclubs.

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digianarchist 4y ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/levelsio/status/1624358155022123008 https://mobile.twitter.com/levelsio/status/16243581550221230...

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