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One-third of those swept accepted offers of shelter. Half of those couldn't find a path to even temporary housing. Without even considering the point of jailin

One-third of those swept accepted offers of shelter. Half of those couldn't find a path to even temporary housing. Without even considering the point of jailing or rehabbing 1,100 homeless people in a city that has neither the jail nor rehab capacity for its housed population,[1] the city is failing to help even the half of the fraction of homeless people who want and accept help. 1: https://www.mailtribune.com/top-stories/2022/01/29/oregon-is-no-2-in-nation-for-addiction-last-on-access-to-treatment/ https://www.mailtribune.com/top-stories/2022/01/29/oregon-is...

throwayyy479087 4y ago
1/3rd is pathetic. That means that 2/3rd prefer the way they live now over reintegration.
- jkestner 4y ago
  Maybe because they’ve already had the other third’s experience. Or do you think it’s a moral failure on their part?
  - bagacrap 4y ago
    I think at the very least it casts doubt on the validity of classifying their situation as "homelessness", which strongly suggests that all they require to be ok again is shelter.
- sudosysgen 4y ago
  There is widespread violence and sexual abuse in homeless shelters. They may be acting on past or shared experience.
  - bagacrap 4y ago
    more importantly, you're not allowed to use your drugs in the shelters
    - throwayyy479087 4y ago
      Correct. They’re drug addicts, who need rehab. In Portland they’re seen as saintly figures who reject capitalism.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  If even 1/3 cannot find proper housing why would anyone want to accept the offer of temporary shelter? Isn’t it much better to setup a tent somewhere where you may be able to live for weeks, months, or even years without being kicked out, as opposed to the temporary housing where you will be kicked out in 14 days max. The homeless don’t make decisions in a vacuum. A large part of the reason they declined is because they knew that if they accepted they were only delaying the inevitable.

throwayyy479087 4y ago

1/3rd is pathetic. That means that 2/3rd prefer the way they live now over reintegration.

jkestner 4y ago
Maybe because they’ve already had the other third’s experience. Or do you think it’s a moral failure on their part?
- bagacrap 4y ago
  I think at the very least it casts doubt on the validity of classifying their situation as "homelessness", which strongly suggests that all they require to be ok again is shelter.
sudosysgen 4y ago
There is widespread violence and sexual abuse in homeless shelters. They may be acting on past or shared experience.
- bagacrap 4y ago
  more importantly, you're not allowed to use your drugs in the shelters
  - throwayyy479087 4y ago
    Correct. They’re drug addicts, who need rehab. In Portland they’re seen as saintly figures who reject capitalism.
rhaway84773 4y ago
If even 1/3 cannot find proper housing why would anyone want to accept the offer of temporary shelter? Isn’t it much better to setup a tent somewhere where you may be able to live for weeks, months, or even years without being kicked out, as opposed to the temporary housing where you will be kicked out in 14 days max. The homeless don’t make decisions in a vacuum. A large part of the reason they declined is because they knew that if they accepted they were only delaying the inevitable.