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> Nobody who knows anything about how these models work would make they claim they actually have consciousness or interiority (yet.) Unless it's the other way
by aflukasz 4y ago
> Nobody who knows anything about how these models work would make they claim they actually have consciousness or interiority (yet.)
Unless it's the other way round and consciousness "is" "just" a certain type of information processing.
- visarga 4y agoInformation processing is the wrong level to place consciousness at. Consciousness is impossible without acting and without a world to act in. Acting creates data from which we train our brains. It is related to the agent-environment system. The internal part is information processing, but the external part is the environment itself. Consciousness does not appear without an environment because it does not form a complete feedback loop. The brain (and AI) is built from sensorial data from the environment, and that makes consciousness a resultant of this data, and this data needs the full perception-planning-acting-feedback loop to appear in the first place.
- aflukasz 4y agoWell, we are providing the environment to the chat - the text we submit is its "environment". Generating the response is "acting". Or are you arguing that it would need to be able to influence physical environment?
- visarga 4y agoInfluence text environment, it needs to leave traces of text. Like bingChat was doing when it looked up what the human was saying on Twitter about it "behind its back".
- pixl97 4y agoSo input/output devices don't exist for computer systems? So what happens when I load ChatGPT on to one of those Boston dynamics robots?
- visarga 4y agoThat's all it needs, to work in a real environment that is not reset every 5 lines of interaction.