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Don't forget Apple really cares about your privacy unlike that mean Google.

by wnevets 4y ago

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- CharlesW 4y ago
  Apple does limit tracking for iPhone users, across the web. They don't need to "cut a deal" with individual companies to do that. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21192830/apple-safari-intelligent-tracking-privacy-full-third-party-cookie-blocking https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21192830/apple-safari-int...
  - vineyardmike 4y ago
    > Apple does limit tracking [to first party data collection] for iPhone users Fixed that for ya. Google is still collecting data on you through Google search. Facebook is still collecting data on you in app. The machine is working as intended. All that changed is that small(er) sites can’t load up on trackers for a few extra bucks. But don’t confuse that with blocking tracking. Oh and Google conveniently released tag manager support for first-party cookies so they track you by pretending not to be 3rd party trackers. Oh and apple still tracks you throughout iOS even less transparently.
    - marcellus23 4y ago
      Facebook using information that I give them while using Facebook.com, or the App Store using information about what apps I browse on the App Store, is not exactly a shocker, nor something I particularly find concerning. The word "tracking" doesn't even seem to really apply to this case -- the whole reason tracking is bad is that it means "tracking" me across multiple unrelated websites or apps (like, you know, a tracker would follow the trail of a person or a wild animal), allowing companies to correlate what would otherwise be independent, anonymous profiles. Apple collecting analytics even with the toggle turned off is clearly wrong. But I don't think they're being sneaky about the usage of the word "tracking". > The machine is working as intended. It sounds like you're implying the anti-tracking measures had no effect, but Facebook's revenue numbers would disagree.
      - vineyardmike 4y ago
        The main point was Googles behavior, who is largely unaffected from the tracking crackdown compared to Facebook, and their revenue numbers back it up. But either way, I think that most people assume tracker-blocking keeps them at least somewhat private, and it’s not as true as the headlines and big corps want you to think it is.
        marcellus23 4y ago
        Fair enough -- can't say I disagree with any of that!
seydor 4y ago
"Give us a cut of your revenue or we will care even more about privacy"

Don't forget Apple really cares about your privacy unlike that mean Google.

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CharlesW 4y ago
Apple does limit tracking for iPhone users, across the web. They don't need to "cut a deal" with individual companies to do that. https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21192830/apple-safari-intelligent-tracking-privacy-full-third-party-cookie-blocking https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/24/21192830/apple-safari-int...
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  > Apple does limit tracking [to first party data collection] for iPhone users Fixed that for ya. Google is still collecting data on you through Google search. Facebook is still collecting data on you in app. The machine is working as intended. All that changed is that small(er) sites can’t load up on trackers for a few extra bucks. But don’t confuse that with blocking tracking. Oh and Google conveniently released tag manager support for first-party cookies so they track you by pretending not to be 3rd party trackers. Oh and apple still tracks you throughout iOS even less transparently.
  - marcellus23 4y ago
    Facebook using information that I give them while using Facebook.com, or the App Store using information about what apps I browse on the App Store, is not exactly a shocker, nor something I particularly find concerning. The word "tracking" doesn't even seem to really apply to this case -- the whole reason tracking is bad is that it means "tracking" me across multiple unrelated websites or apps (like, you know, a tracker would follow the trail of a person or a wild animal), allowing companies to correlate what would otherwise be independent, anonymous profiles. Apple collecting analytics even with the toggle turned off is clearly wrong. But I don't think they're being sneaky about the usage of the word "tracking". > The machine is working as intended. It sounds like you're implying the anti-tracking measures had no effect, but Facebook's revenue numbers would disagree.
    - vineyardmike 4y ago
      The main point was Googles behavior, who is largely unaffected from the tracking crackdown compared to Facebook, and their revenue numbers back it up. But either way, I think that most people assume tracker-blocking keeps them at least somewhat private, and it’s not as true as the headlines and big corps want you to think it is.
      - marcellus23 4y ago
        Fair enough -- can't say I disagree with any of that!

seydor 4y ago

"Give us a cut of your revenue or we will care even more about privacy"