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I hope you're young because this level of naivety in an older person would be very concerning. As others have pointed out, the real world does not work based on

by tharne 4y ago

I hope you're young because this level of naivety in an older person would be very concerning. As others have pointed out, the real world does not work based on rationality, and assuming it does will lead to some very bad decisions.

wpietri 4y ago
Good thing I never said that the real world is based in rationality. But we should use our rationality both to make sense of the world and to shape the world so it is more reasonable.
- tharne 4y ago
  > we should use our rationality both to make sense of the world and to shape the world so it is more reasonable. Recommending that groups take revenge on one another for past behavior and wrapping it in some Orwellian term like "Asymmetric Behavior" is neither rational nor reasonable. It's immoral.
  - wpietri 4y ago
    Thank goodness I have never advocated for revenge, then.
    - walkhour 4y ago
      > Ending inequality requires asymmetrical behavior. Sure there's a small delta between what you say and what others claim you say. Unless they verbatim repeat what you say there will always be a delta. Don't pretend to don't understand the point they are making and address it.
      - wpietri 4y ago
        If you believe you understand what they're saying, feel free to be explicit about it. As far as I can tell, their point is based in confusion and ignorance, and I can't address the particulars when they're cloaked in insults and vague accusations.
dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
>I hope you're young because this level of naivety in an older person would be very concerning. I do not know about this particular fellow, but I think at least some part of the current generation of older people have similar views, much more than in the previous centuries. Relative prosperity in recent times has ensured that many of these dimwits now have the opportunity to survive and now that they are in positions of power or influence.

by tharne 4y ago

wpietri 4y ago

Good thing I never said that the real world is based in rationality. But we should use our rationality both to make sense of the world and to shape the world so it is more reasonable.

tharne 4y ago
> we should use our rationality both to make sense of the world and to shape the world so it is more reasonable. Recommending that groups take revenge on one another for past behavior and wrapping it in some Orwellian term like "Asymmetric Behavior" is neither rational nor reasonable. It's immoral.
- wpietri 4y ago
  Thank goodness I have never advocated for revenge, then.
  - walkhour 4y ago
    > Ending inequality requires asymmetrical behavior. Sure there's a small delta between what you say and what others claim you say. Unless they verbatim repeat what you say there will always be a delta. Don't pretend to don't understand the point they are making and address it.
    - wpietri 4y ago
      If you believe you understand what they're saying, feel free to be explicit about it. As far as I can tell, their point is based in confusion and ignorance, and I can't address the particulars when they're cloaked in insults and vague accusations.

dennis_jeeves1 4y ago

>I hope you're young because this level of naivety in an older person would be very concerning. I do not know about this particular fellow, but I think at least some part of the current generation of older people have similar views, much more than in the previous centuries. Relative prosperity in recent times has ensured that many of these dimwits now have the opportunity to survive and now that they are in positions of power or influence.