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cashless society is a requirement to ascend to the next civilization

by Kukumber 4y ago

Karsteski 4y ago
If the next civilization is my government having the ability to take my money away from me, I want to part of it
- Kukumber 4y ago
  you'll be busy counting your cash on this burning planet while china will be a multiplanetary society
  - Karsteski 4y ago
    Yes society is definitely going to develop in such a simplistic manner. Also, do I really want to be a member of a society like China in its current form? The answer is no. I have no interest in being a slave to my government, even more so atleast. If those in power have absolute control of your currency, have fun opposing them without large numbers of deaths.
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Why haven't we replaced the dying ISS? why China did? Why can't we offer universal health care? why China did? There is a lot of debatable things China did, but when it comes to its citizens, they are properly taken care off to move forward From a poor emerging country to a developed one in record time, you have to be a strong collective and have the support of your own people to achieve this feat Our model of society stagnated, we must reinvent ourselves to move forward, otherwise we are headed towards dark times
      - knewter 4y ago
        Chinese workers in rural areas make less per day than any one of my laying hens produces in income at the current price of eggs.
        pxmpxm 4y ago
        That's apoignant comparison, reminds me of when i had the realization that parking meters downtown Chicago make more than minimum wage.
        tptacek 4y ago
        Why would that surprise you? Parking is expensive, and should be.
      - nmeagent 4y ago
        > but when it comes to its citizens, they are properly taken care [of] to move forward Except for Uyghur citizens apparently, unless of course they have drastically mangled the meaning of 'taken care of' beyond all recognition. The same if you're a Falun Gong member, or a dissident, or said anything bad about Dear Leader, or complained about the wrong corrupt business entity, or have a low social credit score for whatever reason, etc. If this nightmare is 'moving forward', then I prefer 'dark times' thank you very much.
      - incrudible 4y ago
        Not my impression of China at all. Sounds like you reject western propaganda, yet you bought the communist propaganda wholesale.
      - xkcd1963 4y ago
        Chinese don't have pension, health care, or anything similar. What misinformation are you partaking in?
abc20230215 4y ago
I am guessing it will be a two-class society: one being able to cut off other's access to money when needed.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  That's a risk indeed, but that shouldn't prevent us from doing the work in order to ascend, so we must debate and plan today, Switzerland's political system is unique with their direct democracy, so they are better prepared than the rest of the western world
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
    Not a risk; a real fact that happens.
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Good, we know it's a thing, therefore we can work towards avoiding it ;)
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
If that's the future, I'm glad I'm history.
wonderwonder 4y ago
Even Star Trek had gold pressed latinum
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Yiin 4y ago
not necessarily the better one though
mrshadowgoose 4y ago
This can only be realized in a post-scarcity society, and even in a post-scarcity cashless scenario, energy and matter are fundamentally limiting, so people will have allocations of those units.
ChewFarceSkunk 4y ago
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cashless society is a requirement to ascend to the next civilization

Karsteski 4y ago

If the next civilization is my government having the ability to take my money away from me, I want to part of it

Kukumber 4y ago
you'll be busy counting your cash on this burning planet while china will be a multiplanetary society
- Karsteski 4y ago
  Yes society is definitely going to develop in such a simplistic manner. Also, do I really want to be a member of a society like China in its current form? The answer is no. I have no interest in being a slave to my government, even more so atleast. If those in power have absolute control of your currency, have fun opposing them without large numbers of deaths.
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Why haven't we replaced the dying ISS? why China did? Why can't we offer universal health care? why China did? There is a lot of debatable things China did, but when it comes to its citizens, they are properly taken care off to move forward From a poor emerging country to a developed one in record time, you have to be a strong collective and have the support of your own people to achieve this feat Our model of society stagnated, we must reinvent ourselves to move forward, otherwise we are headed towards dark times
    - knewter 4y ago
      Chinese workers in rural areas make less per day than any one of my laying hens produces in income at the current price of eggs.
      - pxmpxm 4y ago
        That's apoignant comparison, reminds me of when i had the realization that parking meters downtown Chicago make more than minimum wage.
        tptacek 4y ago
        Why would that surprise you? Parking is expensive, and should be.
    - nmeagent 4y ago
      > but when it comes to its citizens, they are properly taken care [of] to move forward Except for Uyghur citizens apparently, unless of course they have drastically mangled the meaning of 'taken care of' beyond all recognition. The same if you're a Falun Gong member, or a dissident, or said anything bad about Dear Leader, or complained about the wrong corrupt business entity, or have a low social credit score for whatever reason, etc. If this nightmare is 'moving forward', then I prefer 'dark times' thank you very much.
    - incrudible 4y ago
      Not my impression of China at all. Sounds like you reject western propaganda, yet you bought the communist propaganda wholesale.
    - xkcd1963 4y ago
      Chinese don't have pension, health care, or anything similar. What misinformation are you partaking in?

abc20230215 4y ago

I am guessing it will be a two-class society: one being able to cut off other's access to money when needed.

Kukumber 4y ago
That's a risk indeed, but that shouldn't prevent us from doing the work in order to ascend, so we must debate and plan today, Switzerland's political system is unique with their direct democracy, so they are better prepared than the rest of the western world
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  Not a risk; a real fact that happens.
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Good, we know it's a thing, therefore we can work towards avoiding it ;)

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago

If that's the future, I'm glad I'm history.

wonderwonder 4y ago

Even Star Trek had gold pressed latinum

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Yiin 4y ago

not necessarily the better one though

mrshadowgoose 4y ago

This can only be realized in a post-scarcity society, and even in a post-scarcity cashless scenario, energy and matter are fundamentally limiting, so people will have allocations of those units.

ChewFarceSkunk 4y ago

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