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Absolutely. There's 0% these employees weren't consenting to fingerprint scans when accessing their paystubs. My question is, if they didn't consent to having t

Absolutely. There's 0% these employees weren't consenting to fingerprint scans when accessing their paystubs. My question is, if they didn't consent to having their fingerprints collected, how did they have the fingerprint to begin with? I'm not reading anything claiming the employees were held down or that prints were secretly pulled off of surfaces. They very obviously consented. Below are the law in question and the opinion. Dissent is interesting. 1. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/074000140K15.html https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/074000140K15... 2. https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/e304b011-82d9-4832-9cae-d8205749a2ec/Cothron%20v.%20White%20Castle%20System,%20Inc.,%202023%20IL%20128004.pdf https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resourc...

autoexec 4y ago
My question is what would happen to an employee who refused (as I would) to the collection of their fingerprints. If they'd lose their job, that'd mean they were being subject to coercion and consent was not given.
- DangitBobby 4y ago
  That's not coercion. If an employer can coerce an employee merely by requiring some compliance actions to remain employed, our legal system has a much bigger problems on its hands than this case.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    From the wiki, coercion is distinguished by things like: > the intent, the willingness to cause harm, the result of the interaction, and the options available to the coerced party If the intent is to get people to hand over sensitive data knowingly violating the law and putting people at risk because it makes things easier for the company, I think there's a case to be made that it is coercion. White castle employees aren't exactly known for having a ton of "options available" either. I doubt very many employees have dreamed of working there because of their passion for steamed meats or love for the company. Seems like more of a "when I have zero other options" kind of career move to me.

autoexec 4y ago

My question is what would happen to an employee who refused (as I would) to the collection of their fingerprints. If they'd lose their job, that'd mean they were being subject to coercion and consent was not given.

DangitBobby 4y ago
That's not coercion. If an employer can coerce an employee merely by requiring some compliance actions to remain employed, our legal system has a much bigger problems on its hands than this case.
- autoexec 4y ago
  From the wiki, coercion is distinguished by things like: > the intent, the willingness to cause harm, the result of the interaction, and the options available to the coerced party If the intent is to get people to hand over sensitive data knowingly violating the law and putting people at risk because it makes things easier for the company, I think there's a case to be made that it is coercion. White castle employees aren't exactly known for having a ton of "options available" either. I doubt very many employees have dreamed of working there because of their passion for steamed meats or love for the company. Seems like more of a "when I have zero other options" kind of career move to me.