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Every executive I know (public or private) discusses everything remotely sensitive over voice or Signal now. Sending anything over email is insane given the num

Every executive I know (public or private) discusses everything remotely sensitive over voice or Signal now. Sending anything over email is insane given the number of lawsuits going. Just look at the recent layoffs at big tech - class actions everywhere. You aren’t going to detect corporate fraud very easily.

riku_iki 4y ago
they can put attorney into cc, and "attorney client privileged communication" into the subject when writing email.
- vinay_ys 4y ago
  Also, remember the corporate lawyers are there to protect the corporate, not the individual. Usually the individual gets fed to the wolves when push comes to shove.
- ccooffee 4y ago
  This is my experience as well. The higher-ups slap "privileged" on nearly all emails, even when they have nothing to do with soliciting legal advice (e.g. a company-wide email about internal policy changes). I wish I'd hear stories about a company being sued, and during discovery opposing counsel finds the erroneous "privileged" markings, then the judge drops a hammer or something. I cannot imagine that happening. The most I can see is the judge appointing a special master to review everything marked privileged, but even that seems unlikely. Rules for thee, but not for me.
- liminalsunset 4y ago
  A while back Google, or was it another BigTech got caught doing this and it didn't work out well for them
  - taeric 4y ago
    Would love a link. I don't mind when folks on lists say "we should be more deliberate discussing this, please move it to another channel." I get really annoyed when they do the above, though.
    - liminalsunset 4y ago
      https://www.natlawreview.com/article/sound-silent-attorneys-doj-alleges-google-fakes-attorney-client-privilege-ccing https://www.natlawreview.com/article/sound-silent-attorneys-...
stuckinhell 4y ago
True, also the idea of "secure data enclaves" is something executives I work with are pushing for very hard. Basically a secure dropbox where they can share important information about the company aka layoffs plans and unpopular ways to make money without worrying about some tech activist in the company leaking that information.
- tester756 4y ago
  hmm? how does it work then? if you share, then they can always take a picture/screenshoot/record their screen
  - stuckinhell 4y ago
    Not exactly sure, because its a buzzword right now. If I had to guess infrastructure that's under a completely different ownership than the rest of company, under an extremely tight audit control.
  - wongarsu 4y ago
    I imagine it's similar to digital data rooms used for due dilligence, M&A, etc.: no obvious print or download option, and personalized watermarks that allow you to track who took the screenshot (an when/where it was taken).
tchock23 4y ago
I wonder if this is a tiny factor in the push to return to offices.

riku_iki 4y ago

they can put attorney into cc, and "attorney client privileged communication" into the subject when writing email.

vinay_ys 4y ago
Also, remember the corporate lawyers are there to protect the corporate, not the individual. Usually the individual gets fed to the wolves when push comes to shove.
ccooffee 4y ago
This is my experience as well. The higher-ups slap "privileged" on nearly all emails, even when they have nothing to do with soliciting legal advice (e.g. a company-wide email about internal policy changes). I wish I'd hear stories about a company being sued, and during discovery opposing counsel finds the erroneous "privileged" markings, then the judge drops a hammer or something. I cannot imagine that happening. The most I can see is the judge appointing a special master to review everything marked privileged, but even that seems unlikely. Rules for thee, but not for me.
liminalsunset 4y ago
A while back Google, or was it another BigTech got caught doing this and it didn't work out well for them
- taeric 4y ago
  Would love a link. I don't mind when folks on lists say "we should be more deliberate discussing this, please move it to another channel." I get really annoyed when they do the above, though.
  - liminalsunset 4y ago
    https://www.natlawreview.com/article/sound-silent-attorneys-doj-alleges-google-fakes-attorney-client-privilege-ccing https://www.natlawreview.com/article/sound-silent-attorneys-...

stuckinhell 4y ago

True, also the idea of "secure data enclaves" is something executives I work with are pushing for very hard. Basically a secure dropbox where they can share important information about the company aka layoffs plans and unpopular ways to make money without worrying about some tech activist in the company leaking that information.

tester756 4y ago
hmm? how does it work then? if you share, then they can always take a picture/screenshoot/record their screen
- stuckinhell 4y ago
  Not exactly sure, because its a buzzword right now. If I had to guess infrastructure that's under a completely different ownership than the rest of company, under an extremely tight audit control.
- wongarsu 4y ago
  I imagine it's similar to digital data rooms used for due dilligence, M&A, etc.: no obvious print or download option, and personalized watermarks that allow you to track who took the screenshot (an when/where it was taken).

tchock23 4y ago

I wonder if this is a tiny factor in the push to return to offices.