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On other hand most people put even less time in while WFH. They still cook breakfast- only now it is for them, their spouse and kids. Then they need to feed the
by nextlevelwizard 4y ago
On other hand most people put even less time in while WFH. They still cook breakfast- only now it is for them, their spouse and kids. Then they need to feed the kids and probably also take the dog out. The we have a daily stand up and they start to think about going to the store to pick up something they forgot so they can start making lunch - again for whole family and feeding the kids. Then they get a little bit of work in with the same food coma as you described until its time for “remote coffee hang out” to make up for the lack of social interaction. And after that their spouse goes to a walk or to the gym with the neighbor so they need to watch the kids while still on the clock.
Active work done per dat hovers around 1-2 hours and most of that is done while a kid is watching cartoons on full volume in the same room and constantly interrupting.
- lotsoweiners 4y agoOr they do what I do. Take my kids to school before work. Come home and skip breakfast (or just have a bowl of cereal). Then at the end of my shift, I go and pick up the kids.
- nextlevelwizard 4y agoThey could, but since their spouses are on maternity leave their kids can’t get to the government provided kindergarten and they don’t want to pay for private sector while the mom is at home and supposedly taking care of the kids
- eat 4y agoAnd yet with all of these scenarios you've described, the world keeps spinning. I've yet to see an example of of a company or product that has suffered due to knowledge workers realizing they can use WFH to put in fewer hours and make time to handle their actual important life tasks.
- nextlevelwizard 4y agoOr we could drop these people and have other people do their jobs
- tkiolp4 4y agoI’ve been doing this for over 2 years. We have shipped stuff that brings money to the company. I have been promoted and got raises as well. As long as one produces the expected outcome, I see no problem.
- nextlevelwizard 4y agoWell… you say that but we are currently in middle of change negotiations with couple hundred people losing their jobs.
- nikolay 4y agoKids are at school way before software engineers start work - same applies to kindergarten. I don't cook, my kids never had lunch during weekdays at home as they eat at school. School starts at 5 years of age, so, unless you're breeding constantly, what you describe is a fringe case. Also, I use Instacart, DoorDash grocery delivery, Shipt, Costco Same Day, and many others and do not set foot at a grocery store (sometimes I do pickups) - I only physically shop at farmers' markets where we must cherry-pick the produce. Also, I don't cook, my wife does in the evenings, and I've been doing IF for 15+ years, so, my first meal for the day is at 4-5 PM. I don't have pets as I would rather spend that money supporting a child in Latin America or Africa using the various sites such as Compassion.com. Anyway, I'm a fringe case as well.