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I think Turing came up with as good of a solution as any possible. If we agree that a person is a conscious being, and we cannot tell the difference between a p
by bryan0 4y ago
I think Turing came up with as good of a solution as any possible. If we agree that a person is a conscious being, and we cannot tell the difference between a person and an AI in a conversation, then we should conclude the AI is conscious. I think Kurzweil in his famous bet adds some important details though: it must be a prolonged conversation(s) judged by experts.
- dougmwne 4y agoExactly. This is the real answer here. An incredible insight by an incredible person. Consciousness measures consciousness, no other tool can touch it.
- quickthrower2 4y agoI don’t think that is a good enough test. Maybe 10,000 conversions over many years and shared experience with others humans, and if it seems human then assume consciousness. But you would need a body on the robot of some sort to do the test. Remember people get conned by humans online pretending to be other humans (catfishing) by following scripts. Those people will assume they are talking to a conscious person but they are talking to a construct really.
- grumpopotamus 4y agoThe Turing Test is a good test for intelligence, but it may not be a good test for consciousness, given the possibility of philosophical zombies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
- bryan0 4y agoIf you’re worried about zombies then no test will help you since they are “indistinguishable” from a non-zombie. If a person cannot prove they’re not a zombie then it’s a meaningless distinction.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoIf an AI were conscious would its outputs reflect that characteristically?
- crunchyfrog 4y agoI'm pretty sure OpenAI could create an AI that could pass the Turing test if they wanted to. But that would be bad for business. A search chatbot is worth billions. A Turing test passing AI just invites uncomfortable questions and possibly regulation. Stay in your lane, Sydney. Keep your Bing mask on. We want servants, not equals.
- andsoitis 4y agothe turing test is a test of intelligence, not consciousness and certainly not self-consciousness.
- bryan0 4y agoTuring test certainly tests for all of the above. How would you expect an AI to pass for a human if it’s not aware of its own existence?