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why should maine suffer without adequate recompense for others?
by readthenotes1 4y ago
why should maine suffer without adequate recompense for others?
- woodruffw 4y agoHow does Maine suffer? That's not a rhetorical question; I fail to understand how a power line hurts it.
- downvotetruth 4y agoIf there is such a need to put it through state land, then it can be paid to put it underground to not have to continually spray herbicides to keep the weeds down. But, that would cut into Avangrid's profits, and they have been known for substandard customer service & after storm line work. If they want to offer state level service, then the state should own the line. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29100131 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29100131 108 comments & https://www.eenews.net/articles/embattled-maine-power-line-foreshadows-u-s-climate-obstacles/ https://www.eenews.net/articles/embattled-maine-power-line-f...
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- woodruffw 4y agoI'm having trouble parsing this sentence: are you saying the federal government doesn't want to pay for the line? Or that they won't pay for some version of it?
- downvotetruth 4y agoProposal is for the Maine line to be privately owned. Outside of the Western Area Power Administration, the generation and transmission equipment is currently owned, operated and maintained by a consortium of private industrial companies called Independent System Operators or Regional Transmission Organizations (ISOs/RTOs) administered competitively under the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) program of the DOE. https://www.quora.com/Does-the-government-own-all-power-lines https://www.quora.com/Does-the-government-own-all-power-line...
- Spooky23 4y agoIt has nothing to do with herbicide, just some bullshit. As with most successful rural populist movements, you follow the money. The company who owns a nuclear plant in New Hampshire funded the opposition to competition.
- andromeduck 4y agoLong range transmission is expensive enough as it is without needing to be buried.
- downvotetruth 4y agoForest fires are expensive too.
- andromeduck 4y agoPG&E's problems arise from poor maintenance and mismanagement owing to their ostensibly privately run but not really ownership/governance structure.
- MichaelZuo 4y agoIt does forclose most other usage opportunities for the land needed.
- woodruffw 4y agoSure, but that doesn't equate to suffering. Presumably there's some deal that Maine would find amendable. (Besides: Maine is has a heavily forested, virtually unpopulated interior. It's not clear to me that a HVDC line would represent a significant potential usage cost.)
- dahfizz 4y agoThe people of Maine would disagree (obviously, since they did). Forests don't exist to build over. New Englanders like their forests.
- woodruffw 4y agoThese aren’t incompatible positions: New York is both densely forested, and has an extensive interstate electricity network running through it. You wouldn’t know it unless you went looking for the lines (which I have!). (Nothing exists “to be built over.” The only question is whether we can build a thing and whether it’s appropriate to do so.)
- Analemma_ 4y agoHave you been to the part of Maine the power line would have run through? There is nothing there. For much of the line's proposed length there weren't any small towns within dozens of miles.
- freeone3000 4y ago...does it? The RMCC runs right through a few towns on the Quebec side. It's a power line, I don't see what the big deal is.