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Have you even been on a video call? The fact information flows at best 50% speed because of delays, lack of mannerisms and that one person at once can speak an

Have you even been on a video call? The fact information flows at best 50% speed because of delays, lack of mannerisms and that one person at once can speak and a 2 second gap ends up happening between each statement this slowness is completely tangible to anyone who has tried to get work done with this trash tech. IRL communication that takes seconds to minutes takes 30-40 minutes over a video call.

ghaff 4y ago
Pretty much everyone I communicate with is spread out over a great number of locations. Going back to "the office" would mean I did video calls from the office (annoying other people).
- moomoo3000 4y ago
  "I can't find a room, can we talk tomorrow instead?"
manuelabeledo 4y ago
> IRL communication that takes seconds to minutes takes 30-40 minutes over a video call. I know this is hyperbole, but I would seriously question the communication skills of anyone who pretends that in person meetings are indispensable.
mdorazio 4y ago
You seem to be in rather shitty video calls. This has not been my experience for ~90% of calls in the last year.
olliej 4y ago
... yes, of course I have been. I have not lived in a magical fairy land for the last few years. From that you can go "oh, maybe the issues I personally have communicating online don't apply to everyone else" rather than saying that I have no experience with what I'm talking about. > IRL communication that takes seconds to minutes takes 30-40 minutes over a video call. That sounds like you have communication issues, not technical ones. If it's something that's going to take just a couple of seconds, why are you having a meeting about it? Why are you not just using irc/slack? It _sounds_ like you're saying that you want to return to the office because if everyone is in the office you can just interrupt other people whenever you have a question - which is one of the single most annoying things about being in the office.
- cowsandmilk 4y ago
  I’ve found onboarding of new employees to be far more effective in person where you can both see the same screen. Also, while I’ve never actually worked some place that did pair programming, there were a decent number of companies where that was the norm prepandemic and I would argue there’s never been a virtual equivalent that had the same benefits.
- whywhywhywhy 4y ago
  >That sounds like you have communication issues Cool victim blaming to justify you wanting to sleep in or ignore your coworkers. If I implied you had laziness issues you’d fly off the handle but you’re happy to imply a whole host of mental, competence or physical issues to my communication just because I pointed out video chat has a delay. Think that speaks volumes you’re so gratuitously defensive. I pointed out objective facts you lashed back.

ghaff 4y ago

Pretty much everyone I communicate with is spread out over a great number of locations. Going back to "the office" would mean I did video calls from the office (annoying other people).

moomoo3000 4y ago
"I can't find a room, can we talk tomorrow instead?"

manuelabeledo 4y ago

> IRL communication that takes seconds to minutes takes 30-40 minutes over a video call. I know this is hyperbole, but I would seriously question the communication skills of anyone who pretends that in person meetings are indispensable.

mdorazio 4y ago

You seem to be in rather shitty video calls. This has not been my experience for ~90% of calls in the last year.

olliej 4y ago

... yes, of course I have been. I have not lived in a magical fairy land for the last few years. From that you can go "oh, maybe the issues I personally have communicating online don't apply to everyone else" rather than saying that I have no experience with what I'm talking about. > IRL communication that takes seconds to minutes takes 30-40 minutes over a video call. That sounds like you have communication issues, not technical ones. If it's something that's going to take just a couple of seconds, why are you having a meeting about it? Why are you not just using irc/slack? It _sounds_ like you're saying that you want to return to the office because if everyone is in the office you can just interrupt other people whenever you have a question - which is one of the single most annoying things about being in the office.

cowsandmilk 4y ago
I’ve found onboarding of new employees to be far more effective in person where you can both see the same screen. Also, while I’ve never actually worked some place that did pair programming, there were a decent number of companies where that was the norm prepandemic and I would argue there’s never been a virtual equivalent that had the same benefits.
whywhywhywhy 4y ago
>That sounds like you have communication issues Cool victim blaming to justify you wanting to sleep in or ignore your coworkers. If I implied you had laziness issues you’d fly off the handle but you’re happy to imply a whole host of mental, competence or physical issues to my communication just because I pointed out video chat has a delay. Think that speaks volumes you’re so gratuitously defensive. I pointed out objective facts you lashed back.