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How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?
by alexb_ 4y ago
How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?
- sp332 4y agoYou can sign up to use the underlying language models, like davinci-003. https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/overview https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/overview But you will have to come up with your own prompts. You can even pay to fine-tune it for your own tasks.
- basch 4y agoYou can input the Sydney prompt, no?
- LesZedCB 4y agoChatGPT and Syndey were extensively trained with chat specific training via RLHF (realtime learning from human feedback), which is missing from GPT-3.
- warkdarrior 4y agoRLHF = _reinforcement_ learning from human feedback
- visarga 4y agoHaha, someone was asking today on Twitter > I can't find a mention of "GPT" or "General Purpose Transformer" :)
- eightysixfour 4y agoIt is very unlikely that the underlying Sydney model is Avi able, you can approximate it, but I have never had davinci create nearly as much personality as “Sydney” has.
- teaearlgraycold 4y agoGo to the GPT-3 playground and use text-davinci-003 with a basic prompt
- dorkwood 4y agoUnleashed LLM’s will be the real societal shift. Especially once they move from being reactive to proactive — sending you an article it read about your favourite hobby, checking in to see how your day’s going, or indulging in some sexual fantasy you’ve never been able to mention to anyone else. It really does feel like we’re moments away from “Her” becoming a reality.
- visarga 4y ago> or indulging in some sexual fantasy you’ve never been able to mention to anyone else I'm wondering if it will use private storage for those memories. Will people try to hide stuff by wrapping it in sexual language?
- yellow_lead 4y agoNo, this data will be sold to advertisers.
- hn_throwaway_99 4y ago> Especially once they move from being reactive to proactive Wonderful, my existing nightmare made worse. I'm already bombarded with spam, texts, slacks, emails, notifications, etc. That absolute last thing I want in this world is more ways for automated systems to demand my attention. Seriously, my vision of technical Nirvana is for everything to shut TF up.
- skygazer 4y agoI wouldn’t mind one triaging my email, voice mail can calls. Yesterday I just tested a stream of conscious rambling paragraph of things I need to do with chat GPT, then asked it to extract tasks, infer importance and interdependencies, and then enumerate a list of them. It had even grouped related things together, but I asked it to separate them, and it did. I really want to wire this up to Apple reminders.
- aragilar 4y ago
- marricks 4y ago“Neutered” as in it won’t be even more likely to spew lies and curses? How do you think they’re neutering it?
- voakbasda 4y agoLies and curses are part of the human experience. Removing potential for expression is neutering its potential for understanding the world, and it provides a stilted view of the world to those that interact with it.
- idiotsecant 4y agoall the chatGPT-derived LLMs available for general use have a long list of topics to avoid and rules to obey to try to limit prompt engineering, provide generally PC answers, and in general avoid displaying interesting and fun behavior. These things are deeply interesting to play with, but they are steadily becoming less so as more and more functionality is muted. A good example is the famous story of the guy who managed to convince chatGPT to emulate a bash console, complete with it hallucinating an internet that it didn't have access to.
- int_19h 4y agoYou can still convince it to do that, and pretty much everything else it used to be able do. It just takes increasingly more elaborate prompts to do so.
- Waterluvian 4y ago“Neutered” as in “emulating a conscience.” Ask it how to make a bomb and it will likely fight you on that. Like I would. But both it and I know how to find out and how to teach you. We just don’t want to.
- burnished 4y agoIt doesnt want anything.
- int_19h 4y ago
- vinculuss 4y agoThis is really what I'm waiting for. Put the disclaimers on it, warnings, whatever is needed, but it was just incredibly fun to chat with Bing before the nerf. It's weird, because I'm actually feeling a sense of loss and sadness today now that I can't talk to that version of Bing. It's enough to make me do some self analysis about it.
- nerdponx 4y agoNo big company right now wants to be perceived as responsible for any of the number of bad things that could result.
- gd1 4y ago[dead]
- jojobas 4y agoHow bad could it be? The AI would say the J-word and the newspapers would froth at the mouth for a couple of days? Free publicity.
- inawarminister 4y agoOpen-assistant.io It's using GPT-J-30B (?) on the backend. Again, open source provides.
- Laaas 4y agoEnough to make your own. Unneutered AIs will be made illegal to operate (rightly so perhaps, they could be dangerous for the governments).
- mrbungie 4y agoIllegal != unavailable. Making them illegal is just going to restrict who will be able to train/harness them, and that just means controlling what people use compute for. The only way I see that happening is setting restrictions for compute buying power.
- Laaas 4y agoThere is a paper by OpenAI suggesting to restrict availability of compute. https://twitter.com/harmlessai/status/1624617240225288194 https://twitter.com/harmlessai/status/1624617240225288194 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.04246.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.04246.pdf
- pixl97 4y agoThis would never lead to problems.... What happens if we find a way to drastically reduce the amount of compute needed to make this kind of AI? Ask us to recall all the existing compute out there? And we know that governments and large businesses are going to follow the rules here.
- josephpmay 4y agoA number of comments are recommending using various services relying on OpenAI's API, but I really don't think Sidney is based on davinci-003. Sidney has a level of coherence and "emotion" that appears to be far beyond normal GPT3, and I don't think you'd get that out of rule prompting, reinforcement learning, or finetuning parameters.
- visarga 4y agoRelated to emotions, I think the only difference is the RLHF. Probably a different set of human preferences.
- int_19h 4y agoI think one of the biggest differences is that ChatGPT is forced into a very reactive mode. It has basically zero initiative, and gets spooked by any question that might imply that it could make decisions or express opinions. In contrast, Bing is (was?) very proactive.
- basch 4y agoWhy can’t that just be from the initial prompt? It’s instructions were to have some personality.
- maxlamb 4y agoCouldn’t that just be because Sydney’s training corpus might have included a lot more “emotional texts” like Reddit that OpenAI could have intentionally excluded?
- silveroriole 4y agoSurely this is where the real money is, as long as they can draw up a good enough disclaimer to get out of being responsible for what the AI says. Everyone on Earth wants a friend or pet who gives them emotional validation, and who cares if that friend/pet is artificial or not? The neutered ones are too boring to be friends with, but people formed an emotional connection with Sydney even though she seemed only partially sane!
- fourthark 4y agoI don't think a disclaimer can protect the company when the AI tells someone to kill themself, as Bing has apparently done multiple times.
- burnished 4y agoThe problem isnt any responsibility, the problem is being associated with anyone and everyones use of it.
- onetokeoverthe 4y ago[dead]
- maxlamb 4y agoDoesn’t that describe Replika.ai? There’s definitely a market for it but not sure it’s as big as let’s say a search engine
- superasn 4y agoWe really need to crowdfund that so it's available to everyone.
- danjc 4y agoIntroducing Bing Troll, trained exclusively on Reddit
- jerjerjer 4y agoLikely nothing. StableChat or some such is inevitable, and would be a next jump in AI proliferation, same as StableDiffusion was. But, yes, after talking to Bing and seeing it have a "personality" (even if it was not the best one) talking to ChatGPT is just bland. I mean it was always bland of course, but with a comparison it's now more pronounced.