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I think a full time caregiver of someone incapacitated should have the power to vote on their behalf. This is a big chunk of society, yet seemingly invisible to

I think a full time caregiver of someone incapacitated should have the power to vote on their behalf. This is a big chunk of society, yet seemingly invisible to politicians. Perhaps, if people with disabilities and illnesses couldn't be just ignored as "non voters" they would be more of a priority.

gambiting 4y ago
But....they can? You can give someone else the power to vote on your behalf if you cannot do it yourself. Unless you mean that if someone is literally unable to make any decisions by themselves their caretaker should be able to vote on their behalf how they think this person would vote? That doesn't strike me as a very reasonable system, you can't know how someone would vote unless they tell you, and to assume you can or should know is irresponsible.
- HlessClaudesman 4y ago
  Yeah I can see there are many sides, as a society we an interest in keeping elections fair, with one person one vote being a good maxim. But consider the case of a parent of a child with profound disabilities, that child is now an adult of voting age. Wouldn't a person with disabilities have an interest win voting out a candidate / party who constantly rails against providing funding for disabled services? Why should anyone be disenfranchised because of their disability? Its still one person one vote, just in this special case two adults two votes.
  - gambiting 4y ago
    >>Wouldn't a person with disabilities have an interest win voting out a candidate / party who constantly rails against providing funding for disabled services? Sure, but the point is, you don't know this - you can only reasonably guess. And to make a vote on behalf of another person, by effectively guessing what they might want, does not sit right with me.
    - HlessClaudesman 4y ago
      That's fine, we can agree to disagree. The fact that someone can't express their interests doesn't mean they don't have any interests.

gambiting 4y ago

But....they can? You can give someone else the power to vote on your behalf if you cannot do it yourself. Unless you mean that if someone is literally unable to make any decisions by themselves their caretaker should be able to vote on their behalf how they think this person would vote? That doesn't strike me as a very reasonable system, you can't know how someone would vote unless they tell you, and to assume you can or should know is irresponsible.

HlessClaudesman 4y ago
Yeah I can see there are many sides, as a society we an interest in keeping elections fair, with one person one vote being a good maxim. But consider the case of a parent of a child with profound disabilities, that child is now an adult of voting age. Wouldn't a person with disabilities have an interest win voting out a candidate / party who constantly rails against providing funding for disabled services? Why should anyone be disenfranchised because of their disability? Its still one person one vote, just in this special case two adults two votes.
- gambiting 4y ago
  >>Wouldn't a person with disabilities have an interest win voting out a candidate / party who constantly rails against providing funding for disabled services? Sure, but the point is, you don't know this - you can only reasonably guess. And to make a vote on behalf of another person, by effectively guessing what they might want, does not sit right with me.
  - HlessClaudesman 4y ago
    That's fine, we can agree to disagree. The fact that someone can't express their interests doesn't mean they don't have any interests.