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This whole requirement to return to the office, when data shows that employees overwhelmingly don't want to - well, the whole story is super disingenuous. Not j
by jimt1234 4y ago
This whole requirement to return to the office, when data shows that employees overwhelmingly don't want to - well, the whole story is super disingenuous. Not just from Amazon, but the entire labor market.
First, before the pandemic, employees kept asking for more flexibility - the ability to WFH a few days a week because of rough commutes or family/home situations. The response from management was, "Sorry, we can't function as a company unless employees are in the office. Productivity will nose-dive." Then, the pandemic happened and management's story changed, "That thing you've been asking for, WFH - you know, the thing we told you wasn't possible because it would destroy the company, well, now we need you to do it in order to save the company." People did it, started WFH, and guess what - the company didn't die, productivity actually increased (I've read this in a few articles; don't have citations). So now that the pandemic is basically behind us, the story from management has changed again: "So yeah, that thing you wanted to do, WFH, but we told you it wasn't possible, but then a crisis happened and we told you that you had to do it, and now that you've done it for nearly 3 years with no harm to the company - yeah, the crisis is over, so we need you to stop doing it because it's destroying the company." Wait, what? The thing that was gonna destroy the company turned out to save the company, and now it's destroying the company???
- Ancalagon 4y agoShould’ve slacked off more during wfh in the pandemic.
- ricardobayes 4y agoSame, I worked my freaking butt off, didn't take a single day off during the past 2 years...
- F-W-M 4y agoSame, had the two most productive years of my working life, worked my ass off, build them a system that now makes my salary 20-30 times. Now I am forced to come back in the office (and man did they fail that communication), don't see any real appreciation for the work I did, and I am like 20% as productive as prior. Funny thing: I am still meeting expectations.
- Ancalagon 4y agoMove with your feet
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- concordDance 4y agoRemote makes upskilling, onboarding and knowledge transfer much less likely and harder. It also reduces social connectivity, making communication more reluctant and with more tonal misunderstandings. The lack of social connection also makes people much more likely to job hop (as they won't miss people). WfH can increase productivity in the short term while also gradually killing the company.
- wildrhythms 4y agoAll I see is bold claims like this made as fact without any supporting evidence.
- concordDance 4y agoHere's an example from my recent professional experience: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34847554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34847554
- gitfan86 4y agoAnyone who has ever worked in an office knows that this is not a black and white issue. There are times where in person ad-hoc 5 minute conversations solve major issues, while at WFH that conversation would have never happened and it leads to days of work to solve the same issue. On the other hand there have been times where someone get stuck in traffic and gets to the office late and then is in a bullshit meeting where they have to pretend to pay attention instead of doing actual work. That person has wasted half a day for no good reason.
- m463 4y agoIt took a while, but this same kind of 5-minute conversation started happening a few months into the pandemic though it was with an online meeting (now huddle), etc Now it is second nature, and I've been doing it frequently across continents. For all intents and purposes, this never happened at the office before the pandemic.
- martin82 4y ago