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Probably just capturing the extra CO2 that will go back into the atmosphere now that they’re making us come back into the office -_____-

warning26 4y ago
Commuting can be completely carbon free if you live near the office.
- ecshafer 4y ago
  You are correct. And personally, if I lived a 10-15 minute walk from the office I would go every day. Unfortunately, much of the world (and especially the US) is not designed for such a lifestyle. Even NYC most likely involves riding a bus or subway for 30 minutes or more.
- kurthr 4y ago
  Is this based on a special diet? Even walking burns calories... I mean a lot less than moving at 60mph, but still those groceries had to get to the city center somehow, and the fertilizer didn't make itself.
  - 8note 4y ago
    If you're counting that, the efficiencies of using all the electricity to communicate and heat/cool your home because you're in it also matter
    - kurthr 4y ago
      Well, I was responding to a comment only about commuting, but yes. Housing costs and the energy (including direct construction, for those who made it and profited from it, and maintenance/heat etc) used are enormous. It's 30-40% of most people's budget both $ and Carbon. If you're living in a $1M+ house to avoid $10k worth of annual commuting the environmental savings may not be worth it.
    - bombolo 4y ago
      Well the home gets heated anyway. The fridge pump is pumping anyway.
  - jonas21 4y ago
    Everyone is encouraged to get a certain number of steps in per day (often 10,000) for health. If you don't get those steps walking to the office, you're going to have to get them some other way, like by going for a walk without a purpose or, worse, using a treadmill that also consumes energy in the process.
- gumballindie 4y ago
  Yes, sacrifice your lifestyle, raise no family, give up your desires and get back to offices. Hopefully people considering tech as a job understand why these companies pay well - it’s not because they value people’s talent it’s because they want total ownership of them. Sit at your desk, work and be contempt. Burn out and shut up. Either avoid such corporations or simply avoid tech if you wish for a better standard of living. This is not the 80s and an office job is not the only good paying career.
  - kulahan 4y ago
    The best tech companies I worked for all understood the importance of employees maintaining a good WLB. Getting back to the main point, Microsoft uses buses for getting employees to work. You can just drive to a pickup spot and "carpool" in
    - gumballindie 4y ago
      Indeed, factories do provide such buses.
      - sagarm 4y ago
        ... the implication is that being called a factory worker is somehow an insult?
        kulahan 4y ago
        Yes correct, that was very, very clearly the implication he was making.
      - kulahan 4y ago
        Man, I'm so tired of this "we need to interpret everything companies do in the most uncharitable manner possible" attitude

warning26 4y ago

Commuting can be completely carbon free if you live near the office.

ecshafer 4y ago
You are correct. And personally, if I lived a 10-15 minute walk from the office I would go every day. Unfortunately, much of the world (and especially the US) is not designed for such a lifestyle. Even NYC most likely involves riding a bus or subway for 30 minutes or more.
kurthr 4y ago
Is this based on a special diet? Even walking burns calories... I mean a lot less than moving at 60mph, but still those groceries had to get to the city center somehow, and the fertilizer didn't make itself.
- 8note 4y ago
  If you're counting that, the efficiencies of using all the electricity to communicate and heat/cool your home because you're in it also matter
  - kurthr 4y ago
    Well, I was responding to a comment only about commuting, but yes. Housing costs and the energy (including direct construction, for those who made it and profited from it, and maintenance/heat etc) used are enormous. It's 30-40% of most people's budget both $ and Carbon. If you're living in a $1M+ house to avoid $10k worth of annual commuting the environmental savings may not be worth it.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Well the home gets heated anyway. The fridge pump is pumping anyway.
- jonas21 4y ago
  Everyone is encouraged to get a certain number of steps in per day (often 10,000) for health. If you don't get those steps walking to the office, you're going to have to get them some other way, like by going for a walk without a purpose or, worse, using a treadmill that also consumes energy in the process.
gumballindie 4y ago
Yes, sacrifice your lifestyle, raise no family, give up your desires and get back to offices. Hopefully people considering tech as a job understand why these companies pay well - it’s not because they value people’s talent it’s because they want total ownership of them. Sit at your desk, work and be contempt. Burn out and shut up. Either avoid such corporations or simply avoid tech if you wish for a better standard of living. This is not the 80s and an office job is not the only good paying career.
- kulahan 4y ago
  The best tech companies I worked for all understood the importance of employees maintaining a good WLB. Getting back to the main point, Microsoft uses buses for getting employees to work. You can just drive to a pickup spot and "carpool" in
  - gumballindie 4y ago
    Indeed, factories do provide such buses.
    - sagarm 4y ago
      ... the implication is that being called a factory worker is somehow an insult?
      - kulahan 4y ago
        Yes correct, that was very, very clearly the implication he was making.
    - kulahan 4y ago
      Man, I'm so tired of this "we need to interpret everything companies do in the most uncharitable manner possible" attitude