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Is the idea here that if you search for [Boris Johnson bus] you'll find results about his supposed hobby instead of the "let's fund the NHS" bus? Reminds me of

Is the idea here that if you search for [Boris Johnson bus] you'll find results about his supposed hobby instead of the "let's fund the NHS" bus? Reminds me of the headcanon that Disney released "Frozen" so when you search for [Disney frozen] you find the movie instead of the stories about Walt Disney and cryopreservation.

zpeti 4y ago
What’s interesting about the Boris bus is that NHS funding has increased by way more than what was promised since then. Yet it’s somehow still held up as a lie. The NHS gets something like 30-40% more funding since brexit.
- cesaref 4y ago
  I don't think you're quite right. There are budgets and projections here - https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-... If we take 2016 and compare against 2023 for NHS budget, we see a figure of 124bn compared to a projected 152bn for this year. If we use the bank of england inflation calculator (https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/in...) It says 124bn in 2016 would be the equivalent of 155bn in 2023. So, we're currently funding the NHS less today than we did in 2016 in real terms. The Brexit bus suggested an additional 18bn per year could be made available for the NHS. If this was the case, this would work out as an additional 22bn with inflation. Anyhow, lies, damn lies and statistics :)
- philjohn 4y ago
  When you include the £37bn for test and trace, and £££ for vaccine rollout, yes, but that's somewhat disingenuous (and one could argue done by the Government to hoodwink). The other oft-trotted lie is that the NHS is "awash with middle managers!" when the manager to frontline staff ratio is far lower than in comparable private sector companies. Plainly speaking, the NHS is short on doctors and nurses, short on beds, and downstream services like care homes are not numerous enough, leading to bed blocking. It's also not had funding to keep up with an ageing population. Far less money is spent on the NHS than on private healthcare + medicare and medicaid in the US, and less per person than comparable EU countries.
O__________O 4y ago
Correct, here are the related Wikipedia pages for these type of media tactics, which are commonly called Google bombing, whitewashing campaigns, reputation laundering, etc: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering

zpeti 4y ago

What’s interesting about the Boris bus is that NHS funding has increased by way more than what was promised since then. Yet it’s somehow still held up as a lie. The NHS gets something like 30-40% more funding since brexit.

cesaref 4y ago
I don't think you're quite right. There are budgets and projections here - https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-... If we take 2016 and compare against 2023 for NHS budget, we see a figure of 124bn compared to a projected 152bn for this year. If we use the bank of england inflation calculator (https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/in...) It says 124bn in 2016 would be the equivalent of 155bn in 2023. So, we're currently funding the NHS less today than we did in 2016 in real terms. The Brexit bus suggested an additional 18bn per year could be made available for the NHS. If this was the case, this would work out as an additional 22bn with inflation. Anyhow, lies, damn lies and statistics :)
philjohn 4y ago
When you include the £37bn for test and trace, and £££ for vaccine rollout, yes, but that's somewhat disingenuous (and one could argue done by the Government to hoodwink). The other oft-trotted lie is that the NHS is "awash with middle managers!" when the manager to frontline staff ratio is far lower than in comparable private sector companies. Plainly speaking, the NHS is short on doctors and nurses, short on beds, and downstream services like care homes are not numerous enough, leading to bed blocking. It's also not had funding to keep up with an ageing population. Far less money is spent on the NHS than on private healthcare + medicare and medicaid in the US, and less per person than comparable EU countries.

O__________O 4y ago

Correct, here are the related Wikipedia pages for these type of media tactics, which are commonly called Google bombing, whitewashing campaigns, reputation laundering, etc: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_(censorship) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_laundering