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I love these interpretations. They're at the same time literally true, but completely out of touch with reality. I guess a minimum wage worker at a fast food jo

by lbrito 4y ago

I love these interpretations. They're at the same time literally true, but completely out of touch with reality. I guess a minimum wage worker at a fast food joint in Manhattan is free to choose to live right next to his job, am I right?

WheatMillington 4y ago
The counterpoint gets far more absurd. Should you expect to be able to move to a different state and have the employer fly you to work and back each day, or would that be entirely unreasonable?
- Volundr 4y ago
  The employer could choose not to employ anyone who lives more than X distance away. Many already do.
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- Brendinooo 4y ago
  It's not an unsolvable problem. Free bus passes for people who live close enough to ride a bus, and some kind of sliding scale beyond that. Or look up the national average or industry average or metropolitan area average commute time/distance, and build something around that. Or give a $1000 stipend to every employee to either spend on gas for daily commutes or two flights a year to come visit. Could certainly figure something out if there was sufficient motivation to do so. I don't think it'd be one-size-fits-all either. There might be some situations where you need to cast a wider net and incentivize people to travel more to your job. There might be other situations where you want people to be living closer to where they work.
mym1990 4y ago
Live right next to their job in Manhattan as in being homeless, I guess.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  You understand that you don't actually have to live in Manhattan if your career goal is to work in a fast food joint, right? Contrived hypotheticals don't actually address the issue under discussion.
  - Kerrick 4y ago
    There are, in fact, fast food restaurants in Manhattan.
    - throwaway049 4y ago
      Anyone know if they pay better than ones elsewhere? Or what other things enable them to recruit staff?
      - Turing_Machine 4y ago
        Glassdoor.com suggests that McDonald's in NYC pays crew members and cashiers about $36-37k/year and managers around $129k/year. The national minimum wage of $7.25/hour works out to about $12k/year, so that's about three times as much. New York State has a higher minimum wage, $14.20/hour. That works out to about $24k/year, so NYC McDonalds is still paying considerably more.
        throwaway049 4y ago
        Wow. For contrast, central London McDonalds is paying about 10 GBP per hour for crew - which is the UK legal minimum wage and as of today equivalent to 12 USD.

by lbrito 4y ago

WheatMillington 4y ago

The counterpoint gets far more absurd. Should you expect to be able to move to a different state and have the employer fly you to work and back each day, or would that be entirely unreasonable?

Volundr 4y ago
The employer could choose not to employ anyone who lives more than X distance away. Many already do.
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Brendinooo 4y ago
It's not an unsolvable problem. Free bus passes for people who live close enough to ride a bus, and some kind of sliding scale beyond that. Or look up the national average or industry average or metropolitan area average commute time/distance, and build something around that. Or give a $1000 stipend to every employee to either spend on gas for daily commutes or two flights a year to come visit. Could certainly figure something out if there was sufficient motivation to do so. I don't think it'd be one-size-fits-all either. There might be some situations where you need to cast a wider net and incentivize people to travel more to your job. There might be other situations where you want people to be living closer to where they work.

mym1990 4y ago

Live right next to their job in Manhattan as in being homeless, I guess.

Turing_Machine 4y ago
You understand that you don't actually have to live in Manhattan if your career goal is to work in a fast food joint, right? Contrived hypotheticals don't actually address the issue under discussion.
- Kerrick 4y ago
  There are, in fact, fast food restaurants in Manhattan.
  - throwaway049 4y ago
    Anyone know if they pay better than ones elsewhere? Or what other things enable them to recruit staff?
    - Turing_Machine 4y ago
      Glassdoor.com suggests that McDonald's in NYC pays crew members and cashiers about $36-37k/year and managers around $129k/year. The national minimum wage of $7.25/hour works out to about $12k/year, so that's about three times as much. New York State has a higher minimum wage, $14.20/hour. That works out to about $24k/year, so NYC McDonalds is still paying considerably more.
      - throwaway049 4y ago
        Wow. For contrast, central London McDonalds is paying about 10 GBP per hour for crew - which is the UK legal minimum wage and as of today equivalent to 12 USD.